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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 November 2024
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

That is very helpful. I turn back to Katie Hagmann. In your submission, you state:

“From a human rights budgeting perspective, there is a duty to increase resources to achieve the further realisation of rights.”

What are those specific rights and how much resource would be required to realise them?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

You are just teasing us, really, aren’t you? You throw these fabulous quotes into your submissions and I think, “That’s great. I’m going to ask about that, and see what it’ll mean for the 2023-24 budget.” I am not trying to ask this in a facetious way, but then you tell me—as with the previous question—that work is on-going. It is a bit frustrating, from a finance perspective, when we are looking to make recommendations for the 2023-24 budget. Is there any possibility that we will get more meat on the bones in the weeks ahead?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

You did not refer to the national strategy for economic transformation in that response. Can you touch on that point?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, I appreciate that. Obviously, I will be asking other questions, but I see that Stephen Boyle wants to come in on this issue.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

I ask that question because, although that will not be particularly welcomed by those who are impacted by it, for the Scottish Government, it will mean that there is additional revenue for the plethora of organisations that, understandably given the current situation, want additional funding.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Susan Murray, you talked about the need to remove the barriers to work. Which specific barriers need to be removed as a priority?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Yes, of course.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

Absolutely, and we also need to make those changes in order to generate savings. I have noticed that no one seems to be putting any pounds, shillings or pence on anything today.

My last question before we move to questions from my colleagues around the table is for Charlotte Barbour, and it is a straightforward one. In your written submission to the committee, you called for the devolved taxes legislation working group to be reconvened as soon as possible, so who should chair that group?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

I was waiting for you to use those two words: “finance” and “bill.”

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Kenneth Gibson

From a previous life, I recall that the McClelland report talked about rationalising information technology across Scotland. Has that not happened? It does not seem to have, given that you say that financial reporting has 40 different outputs. I can imagine that there would be a few—possibly, annoyingly—but is it necessary to have 40?