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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Everything piques my interest, as you probably know.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The issue isnae just about the money coming back. Given the inflation that we have in construction and other areas, it is about the value of some of the projects. For example, a road upgrade project was signed off in my constituency in October 2021 for £22.7 million. To upgrade the same road now would cost £10 million more, and that money is not forthcoming. There is real concern about the projects being delivered on time, so it is about ensuring that that happens.

I have one more question, and then I will open up to other members. The supporting document notes:

“Ring-fenced budget cover has been provided by HM Treasury to support this change in accounting treatment however some of the IFRS16 changes will impact our discretionary funding. This is due to changes in forecasts provided against original plans for IFRS 16 leasing requirements with full additional budget cover not provided to cover these forecast changes.”

What is the likely impact on discretionary funding?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Has it cost us about £13 million, then?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Okay, thank you for that cheery news. I now open up the session to colleagues around the table.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

The first issue that I want to touch on is Whitehall transfers, in which, unusually, there is a reduction—we have become used to getting an increase in them. I note, in particular, a reduction of £37.74 million in city deals funding from His Majesty’s Treasury. I have recently asked questions about the Ayrshire growth deal; although it was signed in 2020 to great cross-party fanfare by the Labour local authorities, the United Kingdom Conservative Government, as it was, and the Scottish National Party Government, we havenae seen much action on it. The response that has come back has been, “Oh, well, Covid caused a slowdown.”

There was a wee bit of a flurry of activity in Ayrshire yesterday, but I am concerned about the overall delivery of city deal projects. It is said that the funding from the Treasury is being reduced because of the situation with city deals. Where are we with moving the deals forward? I think that all of us around the table have city deals in our areas that need to see progress.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Monumental?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

You will be glad to know that I have a couple more questions before I open it up to the committee, minister.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Kenneth Gibson

Is there a reason why the finance and local government portfolio was chosen? Could the money have been placed in any portfolio? Going forward, this is going to be a regular situation—assuming that such sums are available in future years, which, of course, they might not be.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Kenneth Gibson

I do not think that anyone is in favour of compulsory redundancies per se, but it is important to optimise the delivery of services. If, in order to continue paying people who, frankly, no longer have the required skills and are effectively not able to deliver the services that are needed, you have to give others over and above what you would like to and say, “Look, if we give you this shedload of money, will you just leave?” We all know that is happening and that it is just inefficient, ineffective, expensive and not really affordable in the long term.

On what you said about the contingent workforce, it is important to put on the record that some £200 million savings have been brought about through the work that the Government is doing, which is very positive. However, we are looking for flexibility. Everybody accepts a one, two or three-year thing during a crisis, but the Government is bringing in policies such as that ludicrous one of not giving ministers a pay rise for 17 years or whatever it is, which, let us be honest, is just bonkers. I see that you are smiling, cabinet secretary, but you know that it is; people are bewildered by it, frankly. The Government must occasionally revisit policies; they should not be written on tablets of stone. That lack of flexibility means that we do not have the efficient delivery of services that we should have.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget (Scotland) (No 4) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Kenneth Gibson

No members have indicated that they wish to comment, so I invite the cabinet secretary to wind up.