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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Keith Brown

I have two questions, one of which is for the entire panel. I will ask it first, but if you could answer it second, that would be great—if that makes sense. This might have been implicit in what you have already said, but is it possible for you to give us one ask that you have for the Scottish Government and one ask that you have for the UK Government?

Before you give us those asks, I do not know whether Lisa Whytock is still with us—

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Keith Brown

I will ask my second question. If your preferred ask of the Scottish Government is a Scottish export office—as it is Lisa Whytock’s—what would its function be, beyond being an investment source, given that reserved issues such as carnets, immigration, visas and stuff like that are not determined in Scotland?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Keith Brown

I suppose that I was not arguing for something that would require university training to understand it—I am talking about a more basic consumer right. I appreciate Professor Schaffer’s example of a call centre, but it seems to me that that is much more mechanistic; you wait for a few seconds before somebody speaks.

The idea that I am talking about relates mainly to disinformation in either images or language. It also touches on intellectual property; in the next session, we will hear from musicians, as the issue is very important for them. When someone has been using AI, I am not saying that it has to be labelled, but it, and the purposes for which it has been used, should be discoverable.

You mentioned the gap a number of times—there is always a gap—and you have both mentioned how fast moving this area is. Regulation, or policing, often has to catch up with what is developing in a lot of different fields. However, AI is moving so fast that the gap can be huge, and so much can happen before the law catches up with it.

This question might be facetious, and it is probably born of my ignorance. Nonetheless, is it possible to consider—or is it being considered—that AI itself might present the best opportunity for policing and enforcement? If we use AI to anticipate what AI is going to do, we can use it to help to regulate AI. Is that being looked at just now?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Keith Brown

If that is your ask of the Scottish Government, what is your top ask of the UK Government?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Keith Brown

I am happy to—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Keith Brown

You interrupt everybody else all the time.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Keith Brown

Could I ask my question, please?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Keith Brown

I will continue on the grounds that I intended to go on. I know that you interrupt witnesses at every opportunity, not allowing them to answer, but interrupting committee members when they are asking a question is overstepping the mark. Can you allow me to ask a question without interrupting again?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Keith Brown

You can see what we have to deal with in this committee, cabinet secretary.

The rationale that I was trying to develop is that, to an impartial observer, the proposal before us seems, I imagine, an eminently sensible thing to do, although they might not be fully aware of the strictures of making appointments in an ethical way, which takes time. If we agree to the order today, or if we do not make representations on it, there is nothing that means any amendments to the Education (Scotland) Bill might be lost or cannot be carried. The committee has the right to come up with whatever amendments it wants, and the Parliament has the right to decide on them.

Today, the Government is simply going through a sensible process. Do you agree that, if the Government were to not go through the regulated appointments process, it would be pilloried for not proceeding in the correct way?

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Keith Brown

It is hard to see why any member would not want the appointments process to be carried out in that way.

Thank you for your answers.