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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 (Consultation and Review)

Meeting date: 6 March 2025

Keith Brown

Are there any views on structures that are different from the one outlined by Professor Horsley?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 (Consultation and Review)

Meeting date: 6 March 2025

Keith Brown

But it would, like the Commission, have to be something that was not an interested party. At the moment, the UK Government has both political and territorial reasons for advantaging one area over another, so that approach would not work. In the past, we all had a say in the Commission, the Council of Europe and the European Parliament—now we do not. This sort of thing is decided at the caprice of the UK Government.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 (Consultation and Review)

Meeting date: 6 March 2025

Keith Brown

When the OIM representatives were before the committee, it seemed to me that it does not have any real powers at all.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020 (Consultation and Review)

Meeting date: 6 March 2025

Keith Brown

My only other question does not necessarily require a response from everybody. I think it unlikely that political parties thirled to a centralised unitary state in the UK will cede this power voluntarily—that is probably hoping for too much—but, to me, one of the issues seems to be a political one. A UK Government will not want to be overtaken on the outside by Wales or Scotland doing something that is innovative and which takes them ahead of the game. It will not want that for political reasons, and it will dampen it.

More crucial, though, is the point that has been made about business. The one thing that businesses always say, and would say if they were here today, is that they do not like uncertainty. Indeed, Professor Horsley made that point. It is a bit like the planning system; for years, I used to rail against planning officials in my council, because all they would do was wait until somebody put in a design for a house or a development and then say no. Instead of engaging with them and saying, “This is how you can get what you want”, they would just say, “Try your best—and then we’ll usually say no.” That seems to be the space that we are in here, and if that is the space that we are in for businesses or anybody else who is trying to innovate, innovation and ambition will die. That uncertainty, given the sunk costs that one has to take on in order to develop something, is not going to be seen by people as a good prospect.

Is there any other change over and above those that you have already outlined that might help to address that uncertainty for business, even if we are stuck with this regressive legislation? Is there anything else that occurs to you, or have you covered everything already?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Keith Brown

Like Miles Briggs, I am keen to understand the context and what is behind the pressures that are bubbling up. I think that we can all see those pressures, whether they are due to 14 years of—let us say—restrained public expenditure or the pandemic. What is the situation as you understand it with comparison to England and Wales? I know that Newcastle University, the University of Sheffield and a number of others have some problems. What is your understanding of the situation in Scotland as compared with the wider UK?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Keith Brown

My question is simply about what monitoring is done and what data is collected relating to people who move from the armed services into further and higher education. I am not asking about the armed forces covenant in that regard—although I and many veterans are sceptical of its worth—but what data is collected? What relationships are there between the military and further and higher education institutions and associated bodies, particularly in relation to resettlement courses and people moving from the armed services into further and higher education, especially since there are so many early service leavers these days?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Keith Brown

We have been talking about some of the groups that you are getting data on. Is any data collected on, or is there any initiative in relation to, ex-service personnel entering further and higher education?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Keith Brown

Is any of that based on relationships that institutions might have with the armed forces and resettlement schemes, for example?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Keith Brown

You referred to how complicated it can be for young people to make decisions, given the complex landscape and so on, so I was tempted to ask how much more complicated it would be for those aged 14 rather than 17, but I will leave that for another day. I am sure that you will be asked that question in due course.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Widening Access to Higher Education

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Keith Brown

I am not entirely sure what to expect as an answer to this question—actually, I do. It seems to me that, although, in all sorts of ways, the Government and public authorities were seized by the idea of acting with urgency during the pandemic, we have now dropped back into old ways of working. Is the Government aware of that and guarding against it? I think that the committee is unanimous in thinking that a degree of urgency would be really useful in this matter. I know that there are always competing priorities, but has the Government learned, from the pandemic, lessons about how to move quickly on some issues?