The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Swinney
Does the association believe in the rule of law?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Swinney
Surely there is an obligation on the legal profession in its entirety. The committee has heard evidence from the Faculty of Advocates that it has no right of discretion in the handling of cases. However, I am interested in what the stance that the association is taking will say to the wider audience in Scotland, and what it says about the legal profession—if the legal profession is not prepared to engage in what has been defined as the law of Scotland.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Swinney
But—
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 February 2024
John Swinney
That exchange rather says to me that the association is picking and choosing what it is engaging with. That is where I have a difficulty with the association’s position, because that relates directly to the rule of law.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 31 January 2024
John Swinney
I hope that I will not fall foul of the convener, but I am going to ask about part 4 of the bill, if that is okay.
I am interested in the contribution from the senators of the College of Justice on the question of jury size. Based on the response to the Government’s consultation paper, the senators are not supportive of the changes to jury size. Lord Matthews, could you explain the senators’ position and the concerns that they have about the Government’s proposals?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 31 January 2024
John Swinney
I am interested in the language that you used. You said that you feel that this represents a greater hurdle for the Crown. I am interested in your perspective on a point that I put to the Lord Advocate earlier, which was about confidence in the criminal justice system. Sheriff Cubie might also want to comment. An individual can be found guilty today by eight votes to seven. We would never know that that was the result, but it can happen. We could find ourselves in a situation in which there is a seven to five vote in a jury of 12 but the person is acquitted on the basis that the two thirds majority threshold has not been reached.
I am interested in the view of the judiciary on that, and in your perspective on what it does to confidence in the criminal justice system. For all of our time, a simple majority has been judged by members of the public to be sufficient to convict an individual of a crime. Suddenly, even an actual majority will not be enough and the verdict will have to be what I might call a supermajority. What does the judiciary think about the risk of that provision to confidence in the criminal justice system?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 31 January 2024
John Swinney
The senators’ submission goes on to make a point about a connection between the abolition of the not proven verdict and a change in jury size. I will explore that in a moment.
What are the judiciary’s points of anxiety about a simple majority in a two-verdict trial? We are all told—and all the evidence that we have heard tells us—that, in effect, we actually have a two-verdict system already, but with two variants on the not guilty side.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 31 January 2024
John Swinney
I wonder whether Sheriff Cubie has a perspective on these questions.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 31 January 2024
John Swinney
The submission from the senators makes the point that
“Given the standard direction that a jury can only convict where the Crown has proved its case beyond reasonable doubt, and where there is the requisite majority for guilty, votes for not proven would not logically transfer in whole or in part to guilty.”
The way that I read that observation, I think that it helpfully lays the emphasis on the remaining necessity for the Crown to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt, whatever we do in these circumstances.
What is underlying a lot of the motivation behind the bill is a recognition that it is already difficult to secure convictions in cases of a sexual nature. Given the absolutely central principle in criminal cases of the necessity for the Crown to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt, is that not sufficient assurance for the preservation of the simple majority?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 31 January 2024
John Swinney
The point that I am trying to get at is that the necessity—which nobody is trying to change—of the Crown having to prove its case beyond reasonable doubt is, as I think we all acknowledge, a big hurdle. In the absence of three verdicts and with the potential scenario of two verdicts, I am trying to get at what would materially change about that requirement, because it still feels to me like a big hurdle to get over.