The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
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Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
Maybe for us both, Mr Halcro Johnston.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
I have not discussed that issue with the chief entrepreneur, but I am very happy to do so.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
You alight on my greatest worry just now, convener. As I said earlier, and as I shared with the Finance and Public Administration Committee last week, my current estimate of the overspend on resource budgets lies in a range between £200 million and £500 million, and the variability there is about my assessment of the likely financial performance of a lot of organisations and whether they can come in on budget. My current focus is on trying to reduce that number. We go through these arguments often in Parliament, particularly with the provisional outturn statement that Tom Arthur delivers and the publication of the consolidated accounts, and some of the underspends do not translate into resources that the Government can actually spend. For example, last year there was a large underspend in student loan funding but we cannot spend that on other priorities because it is ring-fenced annual managed expenditure.
My priority is to balance the budget between now and the end of March. I am here in a temporary capacity but, in my nine years as finance minister, there is no way that I was dealing with the likely overspend of this magnitude in the middle of January in any financial year; it would be well settled by this time. I am therefore acutely anxious about that position.
Obviously, if we are able to constrain spending between now and the end of the year, or if something comes our way from the supplementary estimates of the UK Government, which we do not yet have sight of but expect to see within the next four to six weeks, the position might change and there might be some resources to carry forward. However, this is the first year that the Government has set a budget without anticipating carrying forward any resources from this year into next year.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
We should be able to disaggregate the data to enable all that analysis to be undertaken.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
There is also a question here—I appeal to our universities’ sense of community in this regard—about the role of universities in recognising that some of that intellectual property might have a wider societal benefit, and a wider commercial benefit for the Scottish economy. I encourage our universities to be open to that proposition.
There is obviously, as Ms Hyslop correctly said, interaction with the Scottish Funding Council and the allocation of research resources. The more we work collaboratively on this endeavour, the more we will be able to see the benefits of all of that, and Mark Logan is in place to assist us in doing that to the greatest extent possible.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
Essentially, that is us responding to the profile of the range of city deals or growth deals, to use the summary title, because they span a number of years. The shortest was 10 years and the longest has been 20 years, and there has been quite a variation in the financial commitments during those years. As projects come forward, they will place varying demands on the public purse.
Some of those projects will also be wrestling with some of the issues that we are facing in our wider capital budget, which are around cost because of the increase in input prices. That might create some challenges for project timescales because, if costs are rising because of rising input prices, there might be an argument for developing a proposed project at a later stage.
I assure the committee that the commitment to such schemes remains in place. We support their delivery in concert with a range of local authorities around the country to reflect the varying timescales that have been put to us.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
We want to benefit from the expertise that Mark Logan can bring to help us in meeting the challenges that I have just set out: first, with regard to ensuring that we realise the technology capabilities and opportunities that are available to us, and secondly, in assisting us by advising on how we make the transition to net zero through the encouragement and enhancement of greater entrepreneurial activity within the Scottish economy.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
The climate skills action plan will be published as scheduled. If there are any issues or implications that emerge from the James Withers review, we will take those into account in the aftermath of the action plan’s publication. I recognise the necessity of our proceeding with the publication of that document.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
If you will forgive me, convener, I fear that this will be a long answer, but I will try to be as quick as I can. Essentially, as the financial year has progressed, the scale of the pressure on our budget has become more apparent as a result of two factors. The first of those is the additional resources that we have had to find for public sector pay. We budgeted on that being 2 per cent; clearly, we are paying more than that to address the legitimate claims of employees. The second is the effect of inflation, for which there has been no change in the resources that are available to the budget.
I have had to take some pretty difficult decisions to balance the budget. As I explained to the Finance and Public Administration Committee last Tuesday, I am still not in a position to be confident that I can balance the resource budget this year. I am still—it is now mid-January—wrestling with the scale of the financial pressure. I need to save between £200 million and £500 million before I can balance the budget.
In trying to get to that position, I had to make reductions in planned expenditure. As you correctly pointed out, one of those reductions was to employability programmes. I removed a projected increase in the budget. I did not take away any spend that was being delivered; rather, I did not put in place a planned increase.
The opportunity cost of that, convener, which I think is the point that you are driving at, is a fair issue to raise. The more we can spend on employability, the more we can erode the levels of economic inactivity in society. That is because the programmes that we work on and fund, as distinct from the programmes that the Department for Work and Pensions funds, relate to the group of individuals who are furthest from the labour market and require much wider and more holistic support to get them back into employment.
I accept that the opportunity cost is that we could have put in place programmes that would have provided opportunities for more people to re-enter the labour market, but I will set out two factors to reassure the committee on the understandable concerns that the convener has put to me.
First, yesterday’s employment data showed a fall in economic inactivity of nearly 1 per cent in the year, which is quite a substantial reduction in economic inactivity levels, given that many people in that category face significant challenges. It is a much higher reduction in economic inactivity than there has been in the rest of the United Kingdom.
Secondly, when I took that decision, there was, and there remains today, capacity in our existing employability programmes to take on new individuals—if an individual wanted to re-enter the labour market and required support, there would still be capacity in our employability programmes for them to do so.
Finally, for completeness, the budget envisages an increase in employability support in the next financial year, so although I have had to take a short-term decision to remove planned expenditure in order to help me to balance the budget, we are increasing the resources available for employability support in the forthcoming financial year.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 18 January 2023
John Swinney
I am required to give the committee honest answers. I hope that that is the last that we will have to contribute for the construction of vessels 801 and 802.