The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
John Swinney
So the very nature of the decision about the composition of a jury decision can be conditioned or nuanced. It is about trying to avoid, understandably, the situation that you have put to us where you have a seven to five majority in favour of conviction and somebody is acquitted, which, I understand, is a hard sell.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
John Swinney
What I am driving at is the potentially unsatisfactory nature of how people are left after a not proven verdict. If I follow the rationale of the arguments that you have just deployed, individuals who were accused and then acquitted following a not proven verdict might have some stain on their character because it was, to use the terminology, a “measured means of acquittal” or a conditional acquittal. From the perspective of complainers—the victims—they are likely to feel dissatisfied with a not proven verdict, because the outcome that they believe that they should have achieved was not achieved, but there is a question mark over the verdict. I am just probing in order to determine whether anybody ends up in a good position as a consequence of that verdict.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
John Swinney
The faculty’s position is therefore that, if we are going to have the potential for an eight to seven decision in a jury, we have to have the reassurance of an option such as the not proven verdict. We can design an alternative that gets rid of the not proven option, but we will have to take account of the variables that come about as a consequence.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
John Swinney
I just want to carry on with that line of discussion with Mr Macleod. One of the fundamental conclusions emerging from the evidence is that, whichever bit of this Rubik’s cube you move around, there will be implications for other bits of the Rubik’s cube. We are trying to feel our way towards where the right balance lies in protecting the process of justice. I am interested in the extent to which you can illuminate our discussions with where you think the greatest risks lie in changing the existing arrangements. We do not want to end up in a worse position; clearly, we want to end up in a better position.
I am keen to explore where that all rests, given the key factors that we have to bear in mind in what might change and what might produce different outcomes from those that we currently have in the criminal justice system.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
John Swinney
My final question is on the vexed question that you put in front of us about a seven to five majority for a guilty verdict that then leads to an acquittal. In the other jurisdictions with which we are often compared, where you might have an eight to four or a nine to three guilty verdict leading to an acquittal, to what degree is there public concern about such a result?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2023
John Swinney
Okay.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 December 2023
John Swinney
That opens up a link to the questions that Katy Clark pursued a moment ago. The way that you articulated that final argument is incredibly powerful. From the defence perspective, there is an advantage in labouring the term “proven” in the way that you have just described.
Katy Clark put the question whether, if we get rid of the not proven verdict, there would be a need for some rebalancing in the system. That is the Government’s proposition in the bill. That raises the question in my mind of where the appropriate balance of fairness is in the process, because, whatever comes from the changes that we make here, there must be fairness on all sides. There must be fairness for the accused and for the Crown in pursuing its arguments.
The Government’s proposition is that getting rid of the not proven verdict would mean that there is a need for some counterbalancing changes to the size or composition of juries. You said that the labouring of the term “proven” might already be creating an imbalance in the system, which might mean that getting rid of the not proven verdict would just be removing an imbalance. Do we, as a committee, have to consider some counterbalancing measure, or would that actually lead to us changing the balance again?
That is not a particularly coherent question, but you know what I am getting at.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 December 2023
John Swinney
But Sandy Brindley would not share that view.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 December 2023
John Swinney
Corroboration strikes me as a fundamentally different concept from the not proven verdict.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 6 December 2023
John Swinney
It is totally different, as recent judgments tell us.