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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Fergus Ewing

When did that meeting with the transport minister take place?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

Like Paul Sweeney, I found your account harrowing, and I am very sorry that the system appears to have let you down, not just in one way but in several ways. I just make that observation. Thank you very much for coming before us on an issue that is, sadly, so important for many women.

I will pursue the main issue, which is whether the law should be changed and, if so, how. Am I right in saying that you would like there to be a new criminal offence that specifically relates to circumstances in which violence or coercive action by a man—I think that it would be a man in almost every case—leads to the loss of an unborn child? Is that your primary objective in lodging the petition?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

I was not sure if you could hear me, convener. While agreeing to the courses of action that you have just outlined in relation to PE1885, given that energy is a policy issue that rests substantially with the Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero, Energy and Transport, we should also write to him as well. In writing to both ministers, we should ask whether the Scottish Government has any plans to provide additional funding to enable communities to pursue an interest in community ownership and, in particular, whether the Scottish National Investment Bank, which operates commercially but has a green mandate, could be requested to provide an element or a tranche of funding from which communities might be able to draw, as well as raising money from other sources, such as private banks and so on.

It occurred to me that, in order to pursue what the petitioner wants, those related aspects are also relevant and are perhaps ones that we could seek the Scottish Government’s views on with regard to whether it has an additional plan to enable community ownership of renewable energy projects to become far more prevalent than it is at the moment.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

Indeed. I do not know the answer, but we will pursue that point to see whether we can get justice for you.

I want to ask you about another issue. You were faced with the ghastly situation of finding that the charge had been reduced, as I understand it, without any consultation. Of course, at the end of the day, the people in charge of the prosecutorial system are, rightly, independent. However, do you feel that there should be a requirement for prior communication with victims of these ghastly circumstances prior to any reduction in the gravity of the offence being agreed between the fiscal and the defence lawyer?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

That is extremely helpful. I am keen to pursue those points with my colleagues. Thank you for speaking out so clearly today.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

I can understand that. As Mr Sweeney said, that could be done either by the Government or by an individual MSP.

However, I want to put to you an alternative that has been suggested, in a very helpful paper, by those advising us in the Scottish Parliament information centre. They suggest that, instead of creating a specific, brand new offence, it would be possible, under existing offences, for the charge against the assailant or the accused to specifically refer to the fact that the violence led to the loss of an unborn child. In other words, instead of creating a brand new offence, an alternative course of action could be to urge the Scottish Government and the justice system, including the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and the Lord Advocate, to require that such wording be specifically mentioned in the charge. Do you feel that that might be an acceptable alternative to the creation of a specific offence?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 29 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

That is very helpful, because colleagues might wish to pursue that alternative option with the relevant authorities. In its submission, the Scottish Sentencing Council said that

“nothing ... precludes the loss of an unborn child caused by violent actions or coercive control from being libelled as part of an offence”,

so it says that that could be a route. However, I will ask the council, if I have the opportunity to do so, whether that has ever happened in practice.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

How is the Government going to address the report’s points on inclusion and equalities?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

As the minister knows, I am keen to get out of the bubble from time to time.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Fergus Ewing

Maybe he just found things too difficult. [Laughter.]