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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 April 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

He is head gamekeeper at the Seafield estate.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

Well, I did wonder if there was much more we can do, for the reasons that Mr Torrance said, but if members want to write to the society, there is perhaps no harm in that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

Although I support Mr Torrance’s recommendation, I note that we might, in addition, when writing to the Lord Advocate, seek from her such data evidence as is available, without going into names, of cases that have arisen over the past few years. Legislation was passed in this area fairly recently, I think.

There is no doubt whatever that it is an area of huge public concern, for the reasons that the petitioner sets out in their supplementary submission.

As well as the review of diversion, which I think was instructed last July so might not yet have been completed, it would be useful to find out how many cases there have been of rape by under-16s, how serious the situation is, how many instances there have been each year and any further information about that. That would help to provide a bit more background. It is plain that any case can have tragic consequences for the victim, which is what the petitioner has emphasised in the supplementary submission.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

I support that, but in doing so I am aware from my own constituency that the pavement parking ban has caused practical issues for residents in residential areas where the street is narrow and there are usually cars on each side of the road and where, if there is some abuttal of the pavement, unless a car can mount the pavement to an extent, it becomes impossible for people to have a car. That in turn means that some people are effectively isolated, particularly elderly people, those with impaired mobility and those with disability. It is an issue that has been raised with me, and it has quite severe consequences.

The safety of pedestrians is very important, but there is another side to it. In taking up Mr Torrance’s suggestion, could we ask whether that aspect has been considered and whether local authorities in other parts of Scotland have received complaints such as those that have been raised with me? If not, perhaps some further work might need to be done, because I suspect that the issue will come back, and we will probably receive a petition on the topic before too much longer.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

Thank you, convener, and good morning to Alex Hogg. In the interests of transparency, I should say that Alex Hogg and I have known each other since he first gave evidence on Lord Watson’s bill, which I believe was 25 years ago. We have since become friends, and I am also a supporter of the Scottish Gamekeepers Association, although I cannot remember whether I have paid my annual subscription. Having made a clean breast of it, as it were, I will move to questions.

First, Mr Hogg, why is predator control required as a species conservation tool? I think that the main point of your petition is to acknowledge that that is the case. Could you explain why predator control is required and talk us through the main methods used by gamekeepers and the role that gamekeepers, in particular, play in species conservation?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

What species are most at risk if there is an absence of the predator control that has historically been carried out?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

Is that because the predators regard the eggs as breakfast, lunch and tea?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

I believe that there is an agriculture bill coming forward and that next year sometime perhaps the Government will come forward with specific proposals about how future financial support for the rural economy should be dealt with. Are you saying that you think that predator control, recognising its value for species conservation, should be a recipient of an element of that future funding?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

I have one final question. I am sure that other members of the committee wish to pursue other points, but I have a constituency interest here in relation to the capercaillie.

I think that Mr Hogg has stated that, despite the millions—tens of millions, I think; huge amounts of money—that has been expended with the aim of trying to protect the capercaillie population and see it not fall but grow, we have lost over 50 per cent of the remaining birds in five years. Is that right? Can you expand on that?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Fergus Ewing

If they did employ keepers, we might have some chance of seeing species, including the caper, recover. Instead, we have had the great caper caper, as it were, with millions being blown. I will finish there.