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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 December 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Have I got one volunteer who will be short and snappy?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

On the issue of alternative options, the Carnegie UK report contained a range of different ideas, such as having a conveners forum in the Parliament to ask MSPs to do this work.

I spoke with representatives of Audit Scotland, and it would need resource, because it does not have the capacity at the moment. Other suggestions involve a Government-appointed advisory council and an independent round table. Do the witnesses have any thoughts about those alternatives and about the benefits and disbenefits of having a commissioner as a different way of doing things?

It seems not. I could probably ask questions all day, but that might not be tactically smart.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

It was about the range of public bodies and the urgency of implementing sustainable development and taking a more joined-up approach to policy coherence. The Christie commission was nearly 15 years ago, and we did not take that forward. It is thinking about that policy coherence and the potential of the proposed commissioner to support the range of organisations that do not have sustainable development or wellbeing on their agendas.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Ellie, do you have any thoughts?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Duncan, do you want to come in?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Would a memorandum of understanding offer an appropriate way to approach that, considering the role of the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland and the human rights angle? I have discussed that issue with Audit Scotland, and it does not have the capacity. What about that idea of having a memorandum of understanding, so that you are clear about whose priorities are what and so that you do not overlap?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

Emma?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

There is also the Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill on biodiversity. We are passing legislation all the time, and the need for policy coherence comes through very strongly. I will reflect on that.

Do Ellie Twist or Emma Hunter have any comments on that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

I was going to ask about the potential of the commissioner. I am conscious that we have about 131 public bodies in Scotland. We have talked about raising the bar on advice, guidance and investigations, and expecting not just warm words but action—your reflections on the duty to “have due regard” were helpful—and about the extent to which things are changing. If there is an opportunity to support those organisations, will that make a difference? You have talked about somebody needing to do it, and I suggest that it should be the future generations commissioner. Do you have any reflections on that?

I am saying that as an ex-planner, because the world has changed since I was a planner. I taught planners, and it is about how sustainable development keeps up with technological change, science and what is happening on the planet. I am thinking of the commissioner as a resource for different organisations. Is that something that witnesses relate to?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 November 2025

Sarah Boyack

I return to the issue of future savings, how you support organisations and how you enable them to be more efficient, taking a joined-up-thinking approach. Do any of you have any thoughts on that?