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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Chief Inspector Michael Booker talked about the reasons why reporting data might not reflect the true nature of the crime. We see that in England and Wales, where the rate of reported crime is estimated to be below 5 per cent of the true figure. I wonder whether the same reason for underreporting—how it is recorded—exists in England and Wales. I also wonder whether the bill will make a difference not only to the reporting of incidents. Due to the impact of the bill, might the number of reported incidents go up while the actual number falls? Should we add something to the bill to make it more impactful?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

There would be a change in perception.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Dog Theft (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Is the bill where we should deal with that? Listening to both sides of the argument, it seems a complex matter. Could we deal with it in the bill? We have the ability to amend it at stage 2, so is there something that it would be useful to put in the bill? Or should the matter be dealt with in domestic abuse law, although we do not have a vehicle at the moment in which to do that?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Part of the problem is that it feels a bit like a jigsaw puzzle. No one sees the full picture that we are aiming for and it is all very piecemeal. SSIs on various bits are lodged at committee, but when we highlight issues raised by farmers and crofters, you say, “Oh, but that was discussed at ARIOB and they never said anything.” When we go back farmers and crofters, we discover that they have said things at ARIOB that they have then relayed to committee members in order to try to raise their concerns, which turn out to be huge issues when we are looking at the statutory instruments. Obviously, something is not working. I think that you would agree that some of the issues that have been raised by the committee about the statutory instruments were crucial and should have been sorted out earlier.

If the ARIOB process was working, stakeholders were being heard at those meetings and the department was listening to what they say, we would have overcome the issues. It seems to me that ARIOB is not working and that there is no vision for agriculture in five or 10 years’ time, so people feel as though they are running around like headless chickens, trying to see how their business fits into the various piecemeal aspects of legislation. Surely, that is not the way to work. What can we do about ARIOB to ensure that it works? Is there another mechanism that we can use? What is your vision for agriculture? What will be happening in the sector in five or 10 years’ time?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Can I—

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

My question follows on from Tim Eagle’s question about the computer system. Last week, we heard real concerns that the computer system was a blocker on policy and that the policy was designed around the system rather than the system being designed around policy. How much of a blocker is it, and what is being done to make sure that it is not?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Okay.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

But if ARIOB was working, this would not be the case. Take the instrument on calving intervals—the Rural Support (Improvement) (Miscellaneous Amendment) (Scotland) Regulations 2024. That gave rise to an issue for rural areas and islands, and you have admitted that. You have said that you will look at that again. That was discussed at ARIOB, yet we got an instrument that created real concerns in the industry. If ARIOB was working, those concerns should have been ironed out there, and we should have got a piece of legislation that nobody commented about.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Before we get the views of the other witnesses, I will come back on that point. We see that our cattle and sheep numbers are falling, but if our imports will increase to fill that gap, we will—while our balance sheet might look a bit better—be importing something that is not fed on grass, which is a carbon store. How do we get the balance right in that regard? We are not an island on our own in all of this.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

No one is arguing that payments should not be made on time. The big issue is that we cannot change what we pay. If you want to increase screening and put more into the system to change the direction, the computer system will not work. Are we really saying that we need a new system? I remember when the system came in. It was a disaster. I sat in committee sessions looking at what went wrong. At that point, it was clear that it could not be put right. Are we really in need of a new system? We have to keep the current one in order to make the payments, but, if we are going to change what we do and move away from the CAP, we need a new system that will do that.