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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

I fear that this conversation will be a wee bit like the last one in that some people are telling us that they want the wording in the bill because they need to know what to expect and others are telling us to leave it for the code of practice because that can be changed over time. Secondary to that, does the bill provide the right level of scrutiny for the code of practice?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

Section 10 is entitled “Refusal or recovery of support where in the public interest”. What does that include? When would funding be refused or recovered?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

I have a tiny supplementary question on that. You talked about the sunset clause and when the support plan has to be put in place. Should we use the bill to remove the sunset clause to give more time to ensure that we do not end up with unintended consequences?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

We should be clear that the code of practice will be subject to the negative procedure. The Government will devise the code, which means that, although the Government can consult on it, it will simply be laid before Parliament; if the Parliament does not like it, we will have to lodge a motion to annul. It is my understanding, because it is one of the bill’s objectives, that the whole funding package for farming depends on the code of practice being in place. That would make it very difficult for a committee to annul it, because doing so might delay support for farming.

There are other procedures that can be used. There is the affirmative procedure, under which the legislation is laid and voted on by Parliament, again on a take-it-or-leave-it basis, while other pieces of legislation have been subject to what we call a super-affirmative procedure. Under that, a draft is laid before Parliament; the committee scrutinises it and then makes comments back to the Government; and the Government either takes or does not take the committee’s comments on board before we vote on it.

Those are what you might call the different tests. I suppose that I am asking you whether the negative process, which can involve a move to annul, is sufficient for any legislation on which farming payments depend. Should we look at using the super-affirmative procedure for those parts of the legislation, the codes and so on that are coming through via subordinate legislation if farming payments are dependent on them?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

We have also heard about how complex the consultation is. How do we engage stakeholders? What went really wrong with the HPMA process was that it was top down. It imposed things that people largely did not understand or know enough about. There was a huge lump of policy, and nobody disaggregated it and spoke to people about the impact on them. How do we avoid that? This seems to be just the same: it is a big, top-down exercise that does not involve the people on whom it will impact. I fear that it will get the same reaction, given that there is a huge amount of distrust out there.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

My questions are on the same theme, so I will not introduce them. I was interested to hear about the lack of a socioeconomic impact assessment. We are all committed to a just transition. Can we have one without the other? If you do not know the impact of what you are doing, how can you transition?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

Okay. Thank you.

We seem to have focused on fishing and fish farming today, but a lot more is going on in the marine environment. We hear more about a squeeze on fishing and things such as offshore energy. Should we look at those? I am sorry: I am asking two questions in one.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

I ask people to turn their attention to schedule 1, which sets out an awful lot of the detail. Does it cover all the purposes for which support will be provided as required to replace the CAP and, indeed, provide for a new agricultural policy for us? Does it meet people’s aspirations for the new policy?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

I am not asking everyone to read schedule 1, but it basically highlights all the things that could receive support under the bill.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Agriculture and Rural Communities (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 December 2023

Rhoda Grant

I have an even more technical question—sorry about that. Do we need more detail on how the powers in schedule 1 will be used? Also, should there be greater scrutiny of how the new powers—for example, to cap payments—are used?