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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

If there are glaring errors in that jigsaw, and if your explanation to us for that is that the matter was not mentioned at ARIOB, but we go to the members of ARIOB and they say, “Yes, it was,” then that is not working. If members of ARIOB are pointing out things that you appreciate, from talking to us, are issues, but you are not hearing it from them, then the arrangements are not working.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

I do not want to hog the session, but I have more questions.

To me, that is an indication that ARIOB is not working. The committee is not part of that co-production—maybe we would like to be a part of it—but we are supposed to scrutinise and vote on legislation. It is surely not right that things that are discussed with the industry end up before us as issues.

On the vision, to go back to the jigsaw analogy, most of us look at the picture of the finished thing as we put the bits in place, but in this instance, no one sees that picture as the bits are being placed. That is creating uncertainty in the industry. People do not quite know what the finished product will be.

For instance, we hear a lot about emissions from beef and dairy animal rearing. People who are involved in such rearing do not know what the Government is going to do or what it will encourage, so numbers in animal breeding are falling, which means that we are importing meat from other countries that do not have anything close to our ability to offset carbon.

How can people work with that? Everyone is happy that there is no cliff edge, but they need at least to know the direction of travel so that they can move in that direction. That is missing.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

I want to push a little further on that. I totally get where animals are being fed, but a lot of our animals are grass fed—they are on the hill. That is not arable ground; it is different. They are there, and they are providing a nature benefit as well. We have seen that, where livestock numbers have crashed, that has had an impact on the natural environment. How do we get the balance? At some level, having animals grass fed on the hills is providing a nature benefit. What happens if we lose that? There is always a balance between carbon and nature and what we do to protect both.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

The seventh carbon budget report identified measures that needed to be taken to lower emissions in agriculture, such as adopting low-carbon machinery and reducing livestock numbers. What measures do you think are the most important and require the most attention from Government when it comes to lowering emissions? Those could possibly be different things, because there might be some easy things that could be done, but also some things that cannot really be done without Government intervention.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Why are we hearing that the system is a blocker on policy direction?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

We have recently had a number of statutory instruments from the Government. When we are looking at them and passing them, we get feedback from the industry that it is not happy with them. In defence, the minister says that it was all discussed and agreed at ARIOB and asks why people are now complaining about something that they had full sight of and signed off. We are trying to get to why that happens. Why does the Government think that ARIOB has signed things off? Why does the industry think that it is not being heard?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Can I ask about the process itself? Your working group feeds into ARIOB. Does it formally report back to Government? You talk about there being a lot of discussion, but where does that go? How does it work? How does it feed back in to Government policy?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

Can any of you name a tangible difference that ARIOB has made to policy direction?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

I will be as quick as I can. The Scottish national adaptation plan highlights how vulnerable agriculture is to climate change, with flooding, drought, diseases and pests coming into the country. What will the impact be if farming does not adapt or if adaptation is not given significant priority? What is the Scottish Government doing to help farmers to deal with those risks?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Rhoda Grant

I have questions about ARIOB. Will the witnesses describe the process that ARIOB follows when advising the Scottish Government about climate change and net zero policy?