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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 December 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

Thanks. Other people will ask you about childsmile. I will just say that I share your view of it.

I want to turn to the issue of dental corporates operating in the United Kingdom, some of which are now operating in Scotland. What impact do you think that that has on NHS dental services?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

That is helpful. Thank you.

The BDA did a survey that suggested that 59 per cent of dentists have reduced their NHS commitment and that that figure is likely to increase, and that 34 per cent were either retiring or leaving to start a new career. David McColl, can you rehearse for us why people are leaving and why dentists are reducing their NHS commitments?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

Okay. Let me come back to you on one small point; I will then take us on to prevention. You did not mention training at all. Are there sufficient training places in Scotland, but the destination of the trainees is the private sector rather than the NHS?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

I literally have seconds in which to finish my questioning. I wonder whether Douglas Thain or David McColl has anything to add. I will throw one final question into the mix, because the convener will not let me back in. Should the Government collect and publish information on the NHS commitment of each dentist or each practice so that we can get a more realistic picture of GDS coverage in Scotland?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

I thank the three of you very much.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

I will pursue some of the issues that Murdo started off with, relating them specifically to staffing. Douglas Thain, you referred to NHS dentistry being a “treadmill”. Will you unpack that point a little so that people understand it?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

Let me clarify that I am talking not about the needs of individual patients but about preventative measures that we know have an impact on the population. Let me illustrate my question in a different way. We know that there is growing inequality between the number of children and young people who are registered with dentists and the number who actually participate in treatment at their local dental surgery. Prior to the pandemic, in 2010, the figure for the gap between the least and most well-off areas was 7 per cent; it is now 20 per cent, which represents huge inequality in respect of attendance levels. Do you get involved in monitoring that or trying to adjust it?

I see that you are shaking your head.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

Okay. Can I just sense check that with the witnesses from the two other boards? I take it that you are in agreement with what the witness from Shetland has said? Yes—I am seeing nods. Thank you.

I have a final question. The Scottish Government has committed to abolishing all dental charges. Given the challenges that you have outlined—such as dentists leaving the NHS, there not being enough staff and people making lifestyle changes—and given that the service is not operating at the level that it was previously, how feasible is that approach? How much extra resource would be required? I put that first to our witness from Tayside.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

Absolutely. Thank you all very much.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Recovery of NHS Dental Services

Meeting date: 15 June 2023

Jackie Baillie

That sounds very positive.