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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 April 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

I point out that Lothian Buses is successfully in public ownership and is recognised as one of the best services—if not the best service—across the UK in its provision.

Unfortunately, because of the challenges we had on funding during the last year, we were not able to progress the community bus fund, due to the fact that it would have been for new, additional work that was not already legally contracted.

On where the budget lies, generally we have more pressures on our resource budget than on our capital budget. The bus infrastructure fund will help to reintroduce support that local authorities are asking for on bus infrastructure and I want to try to be as flexible as I can to help support those things for which the community bus fund would have been used. I will give you an example—although, I am not saying this is how it would be used. Highland Council has purchased a limited number of buses for a limited number of routes in relation to Inverness—I am not sure whether it was the community bus fund that Highland Council used for that. However, that is one use of it.

There is a lot of focus on Glasgow and Strathclyde and the Strathclyde Partnership for Transport in particular, but all the regional transport partnerships are looking at what suits them; for example, SWestrans is looking at what the south-west of Scotland’s needs are.

I will try to be brief. Although we have had to pause—I used that phrase deliberately last year—the bus priority fund, there will be funding for buses that can be used for infrastructure and for what the community bus fund would have been used for. I am not currently in a position to tell you what that is, but that is what I will try to do with the budget for 2025-26.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

Which figures are you referring to as having doubled?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

This is basic economics, I suppose—it is finance. Even if you had the same numbers of passengers, you would still accrue the subsidy level each and every year thereafter. It is a substantial amount to subsidise passengers. It is a good and popular policy. We are not seeking to remove it unless that is a recommendation of the committee, but I sincerely hope that it is not.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

I absolutely appreciate everyone’s concerns around what can be done to ensure that our commitment to Ardrossan is realised. I am not currently in a position to give you the information that everybody is looking for. We are coming to a conclusion. I spoke to the leader of North Ayrshire Council at the tail end of last year. We are very clear that our commitment to Ardrossan is there, but the issue is how we realise that. We need to identify the conclusion of the business plan that we requested.

Of course, coming into this post, I looked at the history of the project. Originally, the partners to deliver the improvements were North Ayrshire Council and Peel Ports. Over the period, the Government has had to become involved and it is one of the items that is at the top of my priority list. I would like to give you information at this session; I cannot, but I am very conscious that I will need to report to the committee as soon as I can.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

I will make two points on that. One is that the bus infrastructure fund will enable work to help with easing congestion. On a recent visit to Dundee, it was quite clear to me what they could do should they get approval for funding. I had a good conversation with McGill’s Buses as well on what that would mean for reliability.

Secondly, in relation to the M8, I am recused from talking about that issue, because I have a constituency interest—the M8 and the M9 go through my constituency. I will maybe ask my officials.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

People in Whitburn travel to Glasgow.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

Much as I would like to, no, I cannot.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

That is exactly what we have been looking at—part of looking at the business plan was to identify the cost base.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

We are in a better position than that. Although I would not have used those words, I understand why Kevin Hobbs would have wanted to relay that from his perspective. From the Government’s perspective, I can tell you that, as I said, I hope to be in the position sooner rather than later to be able to come to the committee to advise on what our intentions are.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Fiona Hyslop

If there is a requirement for it, it will be able to be funded, but we have reported to the committee when that lease—that rent—will end. If that is not the case, I will come back to the committee on it.