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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 April 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Perhaps I am wrong about this, but my understanding is that NatureScot has a range of things it can look at when considering deer management, but the word “environment” has now been put in. What does that mean to a land manager? If NatureScot can come and say that you must have regard to the environment before you put in place a deer management plan or it can force you to do X, Y and Z, what does that look like to a land manager on the ground? That is my understanding, at least. The word “environment” is a new addition, is it not?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

You do not foresee the process being used very much.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

What is the process? It is quite subjective, is it not, around the nature restoration stuff? If NatureScot says that it is not happy, so it wants a plan, will there be a move straight to a plan or can there be a period of discussion before a plan needs to be made? Can NatureScot say, “If you do this, we probably won’t need to go to that extent,” or does there have to be a jump straight to a plan? What happens if the landowner says, “Actually, I think that we are doing everything”? What evidence could they supply to NatureScot in saying, “We disagree with you here—we think that we are abiding by what you require of us”?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

The overarching aims also include conserving and enhancing an area’s “natural and cultural heritage” and promoting “sustainable use” and management of natural areas, and those are also among the six new aims that are set out in section 1(2). However, economic development is not specifically referred to.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Perhaps I am missing the point and you felt that some of the aims needed to be expanded on. I look at the six new aims and think that they are already inbuilt in the original four. However, as we take evidence from various bodies, it will be interesting to know whether they look at the aims and think, “We don’t need to talk more about this, because it is there and clear.” We will find that out as we go forward.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

That is fine—it is not in the bill. I was curious as to whether that had gone through your minds in the process of developing the bill, but we can discuss that as we take more evidence. What is the purpose of putting in “fit”, though?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

That is good to hear. I asked about that just for clarity, because we are already getting questions about it. I assumed that what you have mentioned will apply, but it is good to have that on the record so that we know what we are looking at.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

The bill sees the addition of the word “environment” to things that NatureScot must account for. What criteria or metrics will be used to assess environmental impact, and how will it be balanced by local management?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

The bill sees the addition of the word “environment” to the things that NatureScot must account for. What was the purpose of that addition and how will you assess that? What does it mean in practice?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Natural Environment (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Good morning. Thank you for coming in.

My questions are about the 30 by 30 targets for 30 per cent of land and sea to be protected by 2030. I believe that the legislative team thought about making changes to legislation to help to make that doable in the foreseeable future, but there is nothing in the bill on that. What did you think it might have been useful to include in the legislation, and why are those things not in the bill? How do you think that you can make progress on the 30 by 30 targets?