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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 March 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

We are shaking our heads because, whether for you on the hill farm that you had in the past, or for me on my little hobby farm at home, the detail simply is not there to allow us to make the investments in the future that we need to make. Although the high-level vision that the Government likes is there—the four tiers—that is meaningless to a farmer on the ground.

I will ask one more very quick question, because I know that we are pushed for time. At one point, you released a whole screed of information about what might be in tier 2. We are now being told that the computer system fundamentally cannot deliver that, which means that it does not look like anything will change in greening—and yet greening has not really been that helpful. Can you give me an assurance now that you and the IT system are going to able to deliver the changes that you want to see and that you have spoken about in the past?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

I want to go back to a couple of things that you have said. You have made two criticisms of what is going on “down the road”, by which I presume that you mean in England. That is slightly improper, because what we are talking about here is Scottish agriculture. Your party and my party have argued that agriculture is fundamentally different in Scotland, which is why we have things such as the less favoured area support scheme.

However, you have also mentioned three times individuals not getting what they want. Over the past 10 years, your party—your Government—has put in place farmer-led groups and given them very specific remits, and they have gone out and done that work, but you have then completely ignored that work and decided to put something else in place. Surely this is not about individuals not getting what they want; it is about the industry feeling that it is not being listened to. That is what was picked up in last week’s evidence session.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Maybe there has been a slight communication breakdown between you and the groups, because even Jonnie Hall said last week:

“Each and every one of the groups’ reports set out significant recommendations, with the groups under the impression that they would be taken forward.”

Kate Rowell talked about a lot of recommendations coming from the groups. Is what Pete Ritchie said not true? He said,

“We are in a holding pattern and we have been for some time.”—[Official Report, Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, 12 March 2025; c 14, 4.]

The communication failures that are happening are not because you have gone out but because you have no detail. What is the future of greening? Are you going to cap payments? Are you going to front load payments? Industry needs certainty if it is to know how to invest in the future. Is the problem not that it does not have that certainty at this point in time?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

I am no IT expert. If that is the way to do it, that is great. However, why did Jonnie Hall and Kate Rowell, who are two leading, significant industry figures, say at last week’s committee meeting that the IT system is a problem? If the communication is working, why did they give me that message?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Fine.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Good morning. What consultation was done on the order? What was the response from QMS?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Was there no feedback at all from QMS?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Perhaps you can narrow them down and give us some nice practical examples.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

Future Agriculture Policy

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Tim Eagle

On that, I agree with you.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee [Draft]

A Climate Transition for Scottish Agriculture

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Tim Eagle

Please do not laugh at this.

Let us move to something positive for a second. I genuinely believe that we have great farmers in Scotland and that we produce great, high-quality food. Europe wants our food, and we should be able to supply it. However, the climate change plan update in 2020 said that,

“By 2032, the agricultural sector in Scotland will have adopted and be competently using all available low emission technologies”.

I do not think that we are really there yet, are we? We are talking about seven harvests, which is not a long way away, in reality. My question is this: what progress has the agricultural sector in Scotland made towards meeting our climate change targets?