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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

I can provide the committee with the most recent published data from the Scottish Children’s Reporter Administration, which demonstrates that there was a 9 per cent reduction in sexual crimes from 2021-22 to 2024-25. I can, of course, go away and dig deeper into the recorded crime statistics to see whether there is a breakdown of the age of offenders in any particular category. We know from the growing up in Scotland longitudinal study that there has been a significant decrease in youth offending among our young people over the past 20 years. However, that will be of no comfort if you are a victim or the family of a victim, particularly of violence.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

There is evidence about the longer-term and medium-term trends in the reduction of youth offending. There are two aspects to prevention and early intervention.

This is where I acknowledge, as justice secretary, that universal services, such as education, health, early learning and child care, support for families and support for parents, are all crucial, as are the building blocks that are associated with the equally safe strategy and the funds that are routed through delivering equally safe.

Another layer of early intervention is about responding to the risks and needs that give cause for concern, because it is important that we prevent an issue or a problem from becoming a crisis. I saw a lot of that in my previous working life. I saw how problems grew and became crises, sometimes with very tragic consequences.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

No, we have not. I know for a fact that cases of shoplifting are prosecuted. I can see that as being pertinent in the adult system, so it is prosecuted.

I think that it is accurate to say that shoplifting has significantly increased while crimes of dishonesty have significantly decreased overall. Shoplifting is still a challenge. It is particularly damaging to businesses and it will make shop workers and owners fearful. That is why, at the end of last year and the start of this year, £3 million was specifically allocated in the budget to Police Scotland to tackle shoplifting. Assistant Chief Constable Tim Mairs has been leading on that work. Some of that work is about providing a police presence, and some of it is about supporting shopkeepers and to do with communication. Shopkeepers are asked to be alert to who is doing what and to share that information with the police. Shoplifting is a particular issue in parts of Edinburgh, as it is in other areas of Scotland, too.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

I remember from my days in social policy that colleagues there, and, to a lesser extent, in education, certainly engaged in such discussions. In particular, they supported our third-sector organisations and linked them up with philanthropic organisations and foundations. Probably a good example of that, although I am a wee bit rusty on that side of the house these days, is the work of the organisation Inspiring Scotland.

There is a range of partnerships. As MSPs, we have probably all been involved in bringing together local businesses with good causes in our constituencies.

Mr Ewing makes an interesting point and I am happy to write to the committee about the issue if you wish.

11:15  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

A broad range of agencies have a role. I will start with justice social work, and social work more broadly, because it is an area that I know well. There is a huge role for justice social workers in the management of people who offend, but they are not telling me that they need any more powers to supervise release licences or community payback orders. I am interested in the work that is being done by our independent sentencing and penal policy commission in respect of our prison population. The question is whether we have the right breadth and depth of disposals and alternatives to custody. However, I do not want to go too far off-piste from my purpose here today.

Children and families social workers are hugely important. I am very pleased that my colleague, Ms Gilruth, has invested in some additional financial support for student social workers, because there is a recruitment and retention issue, particularly for children and families social workers, who have big child protection responsibilities. Obviously, doctors, nurses and schoolteachers all have a responsibility for safeguarding and for engaging with other services when there is a wellbeing concern. A whole host of services right across the public sector have very particular responsibilities.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

That is the $6 million question, convener, and it is what we have to challenge ourselves with, as politicians and as parents. We are not sighted on all aspects of our young people’s lives, that is for sure.

I know about some of the work that other colleagues across Government have done to invest in and ensure that we have the right content on the Parent Club website. It is a question of how we reach more parents and more adults who are involved in ensuring that our children are safeguarded and well. We have a clear programme for Government commitment, and I am very pleased that Siobhian Brown, the Minister for Victims and Community Safety, and Natalie Don-Innes, the Minister for Children, Young People and The Promise, are leading the online harms task force. That is an important bit of work. Notwithstanding the fact that regulation on online activity and online harms is reserved, we as a Government want to do everything that is in our capacity.

We need to engage young people; in many ways, they will guide us. As justice secretary, I am acutely conscious that the figures that started to emerge a few years ago show that the proportion of young people who are either the victim or perpetrator of image sharing or online harm is significant. That is why our services need to engage with our young people on the realities of their lives. They are much more tech savvy, I suspect, than anybody sitting around this table.

You might recall the Online Safety Act 2023, on which we engaged closely with the UK Government. Under the act are new offences that apply to Scotland on the criminalisation of sharing materials that are intended to encourage or assist in harming others. Part of our work is to raise awareness and make young people aware of the risks associated with those harms, as well as the risks associated with breaking the law.

11:00  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

There are examples of the uniformed organisations engaging with young people. I know that Police Scotland has a youth volunteers scheme. The military has its cadets, and they are very visible, certainly in the community that I represent, at local gala days and events.

At the end of the day, this is everybody’s responsibility. These are our children, and we need to exercise our responsibility to rear them well and keep them safe and happy.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

It is important to say that we continue to live in a safe country and that the long-term trends for offending overall, including youth offending, are on a downwards trajectory. In more recent times, from the Scottish crime and justice survey and other information, we have seen that changes in behaviour tend to be in and around schools, and we need to respond to that. One of the reasons why the summit was useful is that, in many ways, it reaffirmed and added to our understanding of the changing behaviour of some young people and the causes of that.

Essentially, you can boil that down to the long shadow of Covid and lockdown on some of our young people, which included their being out of school and having more unstructured time, with more time that was devoid of the normal socialisation that young people would have with young people and adults and when out with their family.

Online harm continues to be a growing concern—that certainly concerns me deeply. We are seeing bullying and behaviours that are being orchestrated online spilling over into our schools and communities. There is also concern about online influencers and how they are damaging the view that young men have of their own sense of masculinity, which feeds into violence against women and girls.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

I am concerned about any such change. It is, however, important to put that into context, because we need to understand things better. Information from Police Scotland shows that the number of serious assaults by 11 to 18-year-olds has reduced by more than a quarter—27 per cent—over the five years from 2019-20 to 2024-25. However, Police Scotland also advises—it presented this information to the Scottish Police Authority recently—that serious violence by young people in schools over that five-year period rose from six incidents to 40 incidents. Although those numbers, which are Scotland-wide figures, might appear low in total, we are concerned about the rate of the increase.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee [Draft]

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Angela Constance

As I have said, it is not for a Scottish Government minister to decide what the penalties or punishment should be for any offender. That is very important, particularly if we believe in the separation of powers and the rule of law. Like all MSPs, I am under an obligation to support the independence of the judiciary. We passed legislation in Parliament in 2008, if I recall correctly, in that regard. What is important is that the process responds to offending and that there is a range of factors that the independent decision makers, whether in the judiciary or in the children’s hearings system, have to take into consideration. The impact on a victim is a factor, along with the severity of the offence, the pattern of offending and public protection.

Some of the more recent legislation that the Parliament has passed—the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Act 2024, for example—has been about enabling more children to go through the children’s hearings system. However, it has also been about enhancing the rights of victims to receive information and widening the scope of offences that can be subject to movement restriction conditions, for example. Much of the work that I am currently involved in—through, for example, the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill—is around enhancing victims’ rights and, in particular, the victim notification scheme.