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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
Because I had asked to make a private call.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
We cannot have any destroying of evidence. If there is any evidence of that occurring now in relation to the matters that we are currently debating and wrestling with, that would be utterly unacceptable. I am quite sure that there would be criminality as well as professional misconduct associated with that.
I will ask officials to respond, too, but I recall from previous work that instructions can be given prior to an inquiry to make it crystal clear that there should be no destruction of any evidence.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
I am conscious that, today, it is me who is at committee. We are all entitled to speak to events as we see them.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
As you say, I was calling as a result of comments that I had made as cabinet secretary. I wrote up a note, and I have provided that to my office.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
I wrote it up that day, and I would have sent it to the office either that day or the next day. I would have to check.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
I do not imagine that there is a parliamentarian in this place who does not look back at how they have expressed themselves. Could I have expressed myself differently? I am quite sure that I could have, but the quote was accurate.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
In the real world, the protection of our children is multidisciplinary, and there are joint investigations between police and social work. I led on child protection when I was the children’s minister a long time ago, and I had the ultimate responsibility for it when I was Cabinet Secretary for Education and Lifelong Learning, which was also a long time ago.
I will ask Iona Colvin or Andrew Watson to speak to the work that officials do to ensure that we have the right focus, but I will give an example of the work that I am involved in now, as justice secretary. I chair the serious organised crime task force, which has looked at the work of one of Professor Jay’s reviews, which was on the criminal exploitation of children. I led on work with respect to that. Child protection sits with my colleagues in education, but I emphasise that we all have a responsibility towards it.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
There are two strands to that work. We have committed resource, and committed to a timeline, with regard to the provision of independent legal advice. That is different from the provision for independent legal representation in the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill that I spoke about earlier, which is specific to the rape shield provisions in the bill. That relates to what happens when lawyers are contesting what evidence should be led about an individual, particularly if it concerns private and personal information belonging to a complainer in a sexual crime. The individual’s voice was absent from that process, and they were not represented—everybody else was there, with their lawyers, but their voice was not represented.
Independent legal advice is a bit different from independent legal representation—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
That will be one of the earlier pieces of work with which we will proceed. I would have to get back to you on that, but it will be one of the earliest.
The first provision in the bill to be enacted will be the abolition of the not proven verdict. Work on that is being led in collaboration with the Emma Ritch law clinic, for example, which we fund. Work has been produced on the best model to support independent legal representation. I have made a commitment to the Criminal Justice Committee, and therefore to the Parliament, about a pilot for independent legal advice, which is about supporting victims, survivors and complainers earlier in the process so that they can access advice from a King’s counsel, for example, about what to expect in court proceedings. We will be advancing that work next year—there are timelines associated with that, and I will write to the committee about that, but they are in the next calendar year.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 17 December 2025
Angela Constance
Forgive me.