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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 March 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

Yes—you have done an inquiry into inquiries, Mr Mason, but I go back to the point about terms of reference. The terms of reference are important in ensuring a specific focus. They need to have enough flexibility because the chair is independent and we want them to be able to follow the evidence. There are some constraints under the current legislation, and I am sure that all colleagues will be looking at FPAC’s work with interest.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I do. As far as I was concerned, the professor had asked for clarity and that should have been resolved at the earliest opportunity, although my understanding remains that Professor Jay agreed to the course of the remedy: that her clarification would be minuted in a record that is publicly available. Those minutes were published on 18 November, and there was an urgent question in the chamber on 19 November, so the information was made very public.

As I have said, however, all the information and all the correspondence should have been made available at an earlier stage.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I had contacted her about—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

That is not a position that I would have wished for.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

In terms of—

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

Yes, that is a Government decision. I was talking about when Opposition members lodge amendments to a bill. As a hypothetical example, I might look at an amendment and say, “Well, that’s got nothing to do with this bill—that’s not the bill’s purpose”, but which amendments are accepted for debate, either at stage 2 or at stage 3, is not my decision.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I can take that back to colleagues to reflect on it. With the greatest respect, I am not going to develop policy or interventions on the hoof in committee, and without engaging with colleagues, in particular with those colleagues who lead on much of this work. I accept that there is always a risk that shared responsibility can mean diluted responsibility, but I do not believe that that is the case in either justice or education. We work closely together; we have distinct roles in all of this, and I am very clear about those roles, as are Ms Gilruth and other colleagues, but we work together on it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I do not think that they are contradictory. I do not accept that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

That would be for ministers—it would not be for me, individually, to make a decision on whether there was a public inquiry in and around grooming gangs. That decision would be of a cross-Government nature.

Under the Inquiries Act 2005, which is the current legislation, there is an obligation on the chair of an inquiry to be mindful of cost—I cannot remember the exact wording, but there are some obligations put on the chair in that regard.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Angela Constance

I am respectful of your position, Mr Briggs, although I point out that I am not a regional MSP; I am the MSP for Almond Valley—a constituency MSP.

I genuinely looked at the professor’s letter, which said that the quote was accurate and that she wanted clarification. Clearly, I wanted the matter addressed, but not to my satisfaction; I wanted it addressed to the professor’s satisfaction.

Officials liaised with the professor and discussed with her the course of action that she wanted to take. I was content with that. Under no circumstances was that a process that I was going to interfere with.

The minutes of that important strategic group are very public. Clearly, they are scrutinised and read—as they should be.