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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 April 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

You are highlighting that one of the consequences is lack of scrutiny and the ratchet effect. Are there other consequences that we are missing, or is it just the ability to scrutinise properly?

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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

I did not in any way want to intimate that the work that you produce is not top quality—that is not what I meant. It is about the idea that we are not really creating good law.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

A factor that you might take into consideration is whether it makes more sense to move everything into secondary legislation.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

But you would not get involved in stakeholder engagement at the drafting stage.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

Absolutely. I ask the question of the other panel members: is this a sensible way to go? I see nodding heads.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

Thank you. I apologise for using the word “just”—my language diminished the role of scrutiny.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

That was very helpful.

Diggory Bailey, you went through the process of what you do and how you do it. That was very helpful, but I heard nothing in there about a consultation or stakeholder engagement process. Would you get involved in that at all when drafting legislation?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Roz McCall

Thank you—that is interesting. We have highlighted the fast pace of legislation and the increased use of skeletal framework bills. Dr Fox, I will go to you first. I will ask a simplistic question first. The world is moving faster than it ever has before, in that we have modern technology and advancements. Could that be part of the reason for the need to be seen to be focusing and adapting quickly in legislation? Is it just the case that everything is moving exponentially faster?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Roz McCall

My apologies to the panel—I should have said hello earlier.

I would like to revisit a number of issues. I am pretty sure that you have already answered these questions very eloquently, but I just want to home in a little bit on the child disability payment.

I note that we have a 60 per cent increase in case load, while the figure for the rest of the UK is 47 per cent. Both figures are rising, but why is it rising so much in Scotland? Can you give us any insight on that? First and foremost, why is it rising at all, but why are we at 60 per cent in Scotland?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Roz McCall

I will come back to child disability payments in a wee minute, but first I want to go back a step.

When you talked about uncertainty and changes in the labour market, that highlighted to me something that I read recently in a Centre for Social Justice Foundation report on economic inactivity in Scotland. There is concern that just short of 85,000 people in Scotland are economically inactive, but not because of health issues, care duties or retirement. Can you shed any light on why the figure is so high in comparison to the figure for the rest of the UK and on what impacts it is having?