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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Roz McCall

I am sorry, but I just want to confirm this. Given that evidence, it sounds as though that might be a legal position. Has the Government looked at that, and is it minded to make that increase?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Roz McCall

I should have said hello to the cabinet secretary on my first question, so I apologise for not welcoming her to the committee with the team.

In its written submission, the Child Poverty Action Group pointed out that the bill includes a large number of new regulation-making powers that are not added to SCOSS’s remit. It says:

“All should be subject to statutory scrutiny by SCoSS.”

Why does the Scottish Government consider that SCOSS scrutiny is not necessary specifically for compensation recovery or information for audit?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 April 2024

Roz McCall

I look forward to seeing those amendments. Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Roz McCall

That is very helpful. We need to have a balanced view on that issue, and your comments help with that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Roz McCall

Thank you. That was exceptionally helpful in allowing me to understand that process. I have no further questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Roz McCall

I understand that.

That leads on to the adult disability payment. Why do you think that most requests for redetermination are about adult disability payments? Does it suggest anything about Social Security Scotland’s decision making for that benefit? I will go the other way round, if that is okay—you alluded to adult disability, Erica, but we will start with Richard this time.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Roz McCall

No, but it is a valid point, and I accept that. Erica, do you have anything to add to that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Roz McCall

Thank you for helping us out by providing such in-depth answers. I am certainly not a lawyer, so I have some daft-lassie—as opposed to daft-laddie—questions.

You alluded to this on the opposing side, but I want to narrow it down a bit. Do you have any views on the necessity of the proposed provisions? What would be the implications of not enabling compensation recovery for Social Security Scotland benefits? I am not sure who is the best placed to answer that question.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Roz McCall

I welcome the witnesses back to the committee. I really appreciate your candour and honesty on these questions. It is important that the committee hears about how we get things right and where the issues are when it comes to redeterminations.

About 75 per cent of child disability payment redeterminations are decided in favour of the client. Does that raise any concerns with you about the decision-making process for that benefit? We will start with you, Erica, if you do not mind. Please be as open and honest as you can on this point.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security Scotland

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

Roz McCall

I just want to make sure that I have this right. If additional information has come forward in the cases in which there is a positive redetermination, the argument would be that we should look for that proper information up front. Is that what you are saying—that we should really look at how we front load the process to ensure that we have the information right the first time, as was alluded to earlier?