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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 April 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

I am going to put you on the spot here, Lynn, and I apologise for doing this. If we are looking at multiyear funding, flexible funding and an inflationary bump but we cannot do them all, which one would you put to the side? Sorry—I know that it is a horrible question. There are restrictions, and there are fixed costs, so there has to be an understanding at the beginning that those will be there. Could a rise for inflation be the one that will just not get over the line? Would that be fair?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

There you go, Lynn—you are not on your own. Thank you very much.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

Okay. I accept that. I do not think that I have time to ask anyone else to comment.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

Good morning. Thank you very much for coming and answering our questions. I will follow on from the two themes that we have just spoken about. We have looked at multiyear funding and flexible funding, and we have been asked to look at an inflationary bump in funding. Multiyear and flexible funding would both have to start from an accepted understanding that there will be fixed costs, and, for multiyear funding, those fixed costs would be fixed at the beginning, and so on.

I want to get some input from both of you. How can we do that? How can we give an inflationary bump to the multiyear and flexible models? There will be unforeseen costs, but, equally, there has to be a starting point, which comes from fixed costs.

I will start with you, Ran, to move it around. How can we change the models to do that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

I totally get that. It was a horrible question, so I apologise.

Ran, I will ask briefly for your opinion on the same question. It is a horrible one, I know, but what if we cannot do all three?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

Good morning, everyone. I want to pinpoint the inflation uplift point. I will come to you first, Rachel, as you mentioned it. We have talked about multiyear funding and flexible funding. We will always rub up against a dichotomy with the fact that there will be fixed costs that have to be taken into consideration. That is a standard point. If we put that into multiyear funding, the inflationary uplift becomes part of an issue. Will you give me a little more information on what you mean by inflationary uplifts? How will they happen? How can we do it? I know that that is a big question.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

I totally accept that, and I understand the position that you are in. I am sorry to force the issue, but what I am trying to get at is that we need to know what you advise on how we can do this. I know that that is a big question. It is not just a matter of doing a simple sum and giving inflationary rises. Given that there are fixed costs, we have to assume that, with multilevel funding, they will be fixed for the term, whether that is three, five or 10 years. Are you talking about an inflationary rise on everything? What are you asking for?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 12 September 2024

Roz McCall

Lynn, you come from a different area. What is your opinion on that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

I appreciate that, minister. That brings us back to the question about what training and resources will be provided. The point about using best practice was well made earlier, but, equally, we are looking for people to ask and act, and the act part focuses on two or three specific and key bottleneck points. It will always come down to people at those points doing the work to make sure that we reduce homelessness. We are always going to have that bottleneck, are we not? How are we going to stop that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

Mr Bruce, we have heard a lot of information and I accept that there is a lot of overlap. Again, I have a specific question. Would shifting the timeframe to early in the financial year make a difference, or does any multiyear process need to be looked at again, right from the start?