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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

Thank you, convener.

The proposed removal of male close seasons will also remove the need for hundreds of out-of-season authorisations to be issued each year to control male deer, saving land managers time and effort and reducing costs to the public purse. It means that land managers who wish to control male deer year round may do so without the administrative burden. No one is obliged to manage male deer in that way if they do not wish to.

The Scottish Government takes animal welfare matters seriously. That is why we commission evidence from the Scottish Animal Welfare Commission and major animal welfare organisations, which are supportive of this change to the legislation.

I look forward to answering your questions on the matter.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

That is correct. Female deer are less likely to be culled out of season, because there are welfare concerns with female deer suckling young.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

It is much lower. I would have to work the number back. Fifteen per cent of all deer that are culled are culled out of season, but it is 48 per cent of all culled male deer. I would have to do the maths to get that figure, but only a very small percentage of culled females are culled out of season.

Although no welfare concerns have been identified in the evidence base that we have for culling male deer out of season, there are potential welfare concerns with culling female deer out of season, particularly if they are suckling young, because that could lead to suffering for the young. It can be done, but only under very specific authorisation, and the stalker has to be sure to get both. As I said, it is done a lot less than with male deer.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

We can monitor the number of road traffic accidents in Scotland. The SSI is part of a larger package of measures. As we reduce the number of deer in Scotland, the number of collisions with those deer will reduce.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

I am happy to cover that matter. As I have already stated, 17 per cent of deer are already shot at night. Night licences for shooting can be issued only under NatureScot authorisation, and they come with clear conditions attached. The code of practice that comes with them explicitly says, for example, that anyone shooting deer at night must be accompanied by an appropriate dog, so that a wounded deer can be tracked and dispatched humanely. NatureScot can revoke any authorisation at any time, and it will issue the authorisation only under specific conditions. It can come to inspect the site to ensure that it is safe, which relates to the public safety concerns that you raise. At any time during the authorisation period, NatureScot can ask to come along on the shoot to observe that the rules are being followed. None of that is changed by the SSI; those authorisations and safety conditions are going to be monitored in exactly the same way.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

The SSI is part of the 99 recommendations. On its own, it will not make all the difference that we need to make. It is part of a larger programme of work. It removes the administrative burden, which was one of the recommendations from the deer working group, but I would not expect the SSI to have a measurable impact on its own.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

As far as I am aware, no applications have been turned down.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

That is, of course, part of the welfare consideration with regard to this issue. As we discussed just a moment ago, the professionals who undertake deer management need to consider the welfare of the animals when they are undertaking stalking. Professionals need to consider whether hinds are present and, if there are welfare considerations, they should stop their activity and do it at a different time.

That lies with the practitioners, who know best and have the expertise to make a decision as to whether to pull the trigger and whether to undertake a stalk on any particular day.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

NatureScot will update the best practice guide.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Lorna Slater

I support your call for a thriving venison industry, and I agree that we should ensure that those deer become a reliable food source. You correctly identified that changing the ammunition weight allows non-lead ammunition to be used by more practitioners, because it fits the standard firearm that most people have.

We are doing several things to ensure that there is a thriving venison industry. We have been working with those in the industry to promote venison as a healthy lean meat by providing £60,000 of funding for an online marketing campaign. We have been supporting local chill and processing facilities through £80,000 of funding being made available for a pilot project. I am also aware that the Scottish Venison Association has recently announced that its partnership with the Country Food Trust will result in wild venison from Scottish deer going to food banks, kitchens and other charities.