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Thank you. That is helpful.

Gavin, do you have any comments on that?

As I was saying, there has been a bit of overlap—I am getting a bit of pressure from other members here. I wonder whether Garvin and Gavin might want to comment on how an organisation might demonstrate how parents’ views and children’s views are given due weight.

We will come to that as well.

That is super. I thank everyone on the panel for their evidence.

I suspend the meeting for 20 minutes to allow our present witnesses to leave and those on our second panel to come in.

I welcome our second set of witnesses. Ken McAra is an HM inspector of education and the convener of the FDA union’s Education Scotland section. Sharon McGuigan is an SQA accreditation manager and a workplace representative from Unite the union. Pauline Rodger is an SQA understanding standards project manager and a workplace representative—she is also from Unite. Thank you all for joining us.

As with our first panel of witnesses, we will go straight to questions from members. Willie Rennie will kick us off.

Again, we will be digging into the detail and specifics around those things. Do you have anything else to add?

Great. As I said, we will pick up on a lot of those things as we go forward. Garvin—over to you now.

He will.

That is what we need to ask.

No, I am asking whether there is anything preventing the staff representative on the board from doing that engagement right now, under the current legislation, or is it the individual who is not doing it?