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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 April 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Before I bring in David Natzler, I ask whether we are really talking about a description of a committee where, rather than every politician who sits on the committee bringing their vested interest, it is about developing a team that can sit behind the committee identity to sometimes potentially defeat the whips—two of us are sitting here—but more important, to put aside party politics and use the strength of the committee as an institution to justify why difficult decisions are made. I ask Sir David to respond to that and the previous point.

09:45  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Are we seeking free media training at this point?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Sir David, do you have a comment, before I hand back to Rona?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

We are ahead of the game on that—well, at the front of it. Joe, did you want to come in?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Sir David, you can reassure your friend that some questions are probably already in the post to him.

As I am the convener and I am speaking, I am going to do that thing of reminding myself that we are short of time. I will bring in Meg Russell, and I will then hand over to Annie Wells.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Marc Geddes, do you want to comment on that?

10:15  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Does the concept of flipping the selection—doing conveners first then drawing on the committee—answer the challenge that you put, Brian?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

I want to move on to the next topic, which is expectations of committees and whose expectations of committees we should pay attention to. What is the academic understanding of and knowledge about the effectiveness of committees and the members on them, or is that an iterative area of study? We have made reference to very substantial reports that have looked at many different committees. How well do we understand the questions that we are asking?

09:30  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Your two insights and all the insights from the witnesses today have been very valuable and incredibly interesting.

I thank you all for your time this morning. If there are any other thoughts, particularly from Meg Russell, whom I dropped in at the deep end with that last question, or if there is anything that you would like to add, “just phone the clerk”—to use Brian Taylor’s phrase—as a way in. Thank you very much.

10:42 Meeting continued in private until 11:14.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Martin Whitfield

Do you want to comment, Meg?