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Thank you. Dr Fox, would you like to comment on this?

Thank you. I am slightly conscious of time. Would it be all right if I passed over to Edward Mountain, Mr Doris? Your question was pretty well covered.

Thank you, Dr Fox. I am very conscious of time. Both of your contributions have been incredibly useful and valuable. I thank you both for your attendance today and I hope that you follow our inquiry, if not simply to learn a little bit more about the Scottish Parliament perhaps to find a way in which another legislature is looking at the hybrid Parliament and how we move forward. I once again express our thanks for your attendance this morning.

I suspend the meeting briefly so that we can change over witnesses.

Dr Childs?

That was helpful. Did you want to respond, Dr Williamson?

Bob Doris will develop the conversation.

Welcome back to our second evidence session on future parliamentary procedure and practice. I welcome Dr Sarah Childs from the Royal Holloway, University of London, and Dr Andy Williamson from Democratise, who is joining us online. I thank you for your attendance this morning. My intention is to move straight to questions from the committee in the hope that we can develop a conversation about certain themes that have come through in the evidence that we have received so far. I will pass you both into the more than capable hands of Collette Stevenson.

Dr Childs, we will hear from you first.

I thank our second panel of witnesses for a very informative session. I hope that you continue to follow our inquiry with interest. We will, no doubt, bombard you with questions on various matters in due course.

On behalf of the committee, I once again thank Professor Childs for attending in person and I thank Dr Williamson, whom we managed, with technology allowing and the sheep and lambs being in the right place, to see very clearly by the end.

We now move into private session.

That is interesting. The problem does not lie in the formulaic way in which legislation is created or in which committees sit but in the softer, challenging-to-measure interactions that happen face to face and in person that facilitate the greater ideal of producing legislation and getting work done.