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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 November 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful. To deal with that second point first, my understanding is that the proxy scheme is operating as we thought it was going to operate. However, I note your concern about the actual wording of the voting scheme and I am more than happy to write to seek clarification. You will recall that we tried to frame it in such a way as to give the Presiding Officer the widest possible opportunity to reach the right decision on individual cases without having to seek medical advice or additional information. Therefore, I am more than happy to write to seek clarification.

Before we deal with your first point, in which you hinted that we should seek more information before reaching a decision, I will ask whether any other members want to come in.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

Yes, it is.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful. Thank you.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

That is helpful. After Collette has contributed, I will come back to Bob.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

You are absolutely right to raise that. I think that that should be part of the evaluation because, come the summer recess, the voting apparatus in the chamber will change—the committee will be cognisant of that. Because the proxy voting pilot already exists, I hope that there will be a way of using the new facilities to capture that, which might alleviate some of the time that is spent at stage 3 in particular.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

I certainly think that framing the question that we want to ask in relation to the new equipment for voting is helpful.

We talked beforehand about unknown unknowns. Until we had the proxy pilot, I do not think that anyone really considered the situation at stage 3. People have a view of something when we talk about it. An iterative pilot approach allows us to say, “Oh, how will it work in this circumstance?” We can capture that and put something in place so that we will, I hope, have an answer on what a more formalised approach would look like towards the end of the pilot.

That is helpful. Do members agree to confirm to the Presiding Officer that we agree to the amendment that she seeks and to seek the additional information that we have requested?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

That concludes the public part of the meeting. We now move into private.

09:57 Meeting continued in private until 11:20.  

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Net Zero Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

Agenda item 2 is in respect of correspondence that we have received from the Conveners Group, which relates to strengthening net zero scrutiny arrangements. Do members have any comments?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

Do we agree to support the PO’s request for an amendment to the scheme, and to clarify the understanding with regard to the designation of a proxy, which is a valid question? Do we also agree to instruct the clerks to capture evidence for the evaluation that we, as a committee, must undertake?

Members indicated agreement.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Correspondence (Proxy Voting Scheme)

Meeting date: 2 February 2023

Martin Whitfield

I see no issue with doing that. We would be seeking input from the corporate body, as an entity, in our evaluation of proxy voting.

I am aware of a number of strands of correspondence that we have with the corporate body about a number of matters. However, I see no harm in writing to it and, if you are content, Bob, I am happy to do so, just to express where this comes from and what it is about and to ask for its thoughts. The employment and contractual relationships between the corporate body and members of staff do not fall directly within the committee’s remit, but I will reinforce the point that, as a Parliament, we are looking for a developmental and iterative approach to employment that is as widely supportive as possible, in order for us to get our jobs done.