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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

You mentioned pay, but there are also a lot of issues to do with working conditions. I spoke recently to some doctors. Some of their comments were about there being no compensation or time off in lieu of having to stay late at work. Some were expected to come in early. Some spoke about there being no rest facilities for night shift or when on call. Sometimes, if they get a chance to take a break, they have to put two chairs together to try to sleep. Some have been told that they cannot attend otherwise mandatory teaching sessions as workload and staffing do not allow it. The list goes on. Those trainee doctors will not stay if those are the conditions that they experience during their training years. Are all health boards involved in looking at working conditions for doctors?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

We have the figure of 800 GPs, but that is a head count. I have heard that many GPs are now going part time. If you have 800 GPs who work five days a week, that is one thing, but if you have 800 GPs who work only three days a week, that would take, I think, 300 GPs off your figures. Do you have equivalent figures, so that it is not misleading to say that we have 800 GPs? If we recruit GPs and they all work part time, we are not actually getting full-time equivalent GPs into the system.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

Good morning. What steps has the Scottish Government taken to reduce reliance on bank and agency staff and the significant increase in expenditure on that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

Okay. Thanks.

How successful has the Scottish Government’s international recruitment strategy been to date? Will international recruitment form part of future workforce plans?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

Okay. Obviously, there is free education in Scotland. One of the big issues is the talk of fewer Scottish students being able to get on to courses because the universities have to take on students who pay fees. I do not know how true this is, but I heard that in one recent dentistry course only three of the people who completed the course were Scottish and the rest were international students. I cannot say that that is a fact, but it is what I was told.

I know that you do not have them now, but could you give us figures showing how many places Scottish students get on medicine, dentistry and pharmacy courses, and an update on completion rates so that we can see how many Scottish students are completing courses in our universities and can stay on?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

You have spoken a lot about recruitment. What are you doing to retain the staff that you already have? Many junior doctors seem to be taking a gap year when they complete foundation year 2, because they say that they are overworked and exhausted. I have figures showing that 15,000 NHS workers left the health service in 2021-22. You have said that numbers have increased to 156,000 compared to 142,000 pre-pandemic, but a lot of staff still seem to be leaving because they are overworked. What are we doing to retain the staff that we already have?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

There is an extra premium when you take on international staff. Are you looking at or tracking retention rates of international staff compared with those of domestic staff?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “NHS in Scotland 2022”

Meeting date: 4 May 2023

Sharon Dowey

Okay. Thank you.

Can you tell us more about what funding arrangements the Scottish Government is putting in place to ensure that Scottish students have access to places on medical courses that are offered by Scottish universities?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Sharon Dowey

Therefore, if Ferguson Marine spends more money, will that need to come back to Parliament? You say that it must hit milestone targets.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 27 April 2023

Sharon Dowey

This is my last question. To what extent is the Scottish Government preparing for a future funding requirement, recognising that financial assurances have only been provided until February 2024?