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Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
Was an error made in rushing to make the decision to a political agenda? You say that you do not think that there was one, but given the United Kingdom Government’s announcement on defence contracts, was making the contract a top-line announcement at your party’s conference a political agenda?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
I disagree. I think that it would have been possible to have waited until you came back from your holidays for you to sign the contract, rather than Keith Brown signing it while you were on holiday.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
When the contract was awarded, did you know that CMAL had concerns about it being awarded to FMEL? Were you aware of how much concern it had?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
So, at that point, you were not concerned that you did not have the full builders refund guarantee.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
There still seemed to be a lot of concerns from CMAL, which felt that it had maybe been forced into it.
Given all the different concerns that were raised with you, did you discuss those with other ministers or cabinet secretaries, or with the First Minister or her advisers? Were they aware of the concerns?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
Aye.
10:15Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
A letter from you to Stuart McMillan suggests that CMAL had been comfortable to proceed with other procurement and ship builds without a full builders guarantee, which Erik Østergaard said in his evidence was not true. Can you say more about that letter? Would you be willing to share it with the committee? Do you have a copy of the letter?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
From CMAL’s submissions, it seemed very keen to go back to the procurement process because it would have preferred to proceed with a full builders refund guarantee. Why were ministers so keen to proceed with the contract at that time?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
So you did not have any meetings with CMAL.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 8 September 2022
Sharon Dowey
I know that some of my colleagues have other questions about that. When did you become aware that there would not be a full builders refund guarantee?
