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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 January 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Sharon Dowey

I will move on. In your written submission, you state that the costs of new legislation

“have not always been accurately described or illustrated in previous pre-budget evidence submissions.”

You also note that it is estimated that dealing with new legislation will have

“a financial impact of £4.5m on policing for financial year 2026-27”,

which will rise to

“£22.9m by 2028-29.”

That is a huge difference.

Are you satisfied that the costs of new legislation, including the Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Act 2025, will be covered by the Scottish Government? If the funding is not received, what will the impact be?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Sharon Dowey

Given the issues that police currently have in trying to arrest or charge somebody, can we work with the bill as drafted, or do we need something totally different? Could we make amendments to the bill that would help the police to be able to arrest and charge people who are causing harm to women and girls?

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Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Sharon Dowey

If you could send us any other figures, that would be helpful. However, as things stand just now, do you think that the figures in the financial memorandum will rise?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Sharon Dowey

Your submission states:

“Police Scotland recognise that we have sound legislation in place to be able to challenge demand for ‘on street’ prostitution”

and that there is

“appropriate legislation”

to address situations where trafficking is apparent. That suggests that we need to strengthen the legislation regarding off-street prostitution. However, the submission says that Police Scotland is fully supportive of the bill’s proposal to repeal section 46 of the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982.

Everybody talks about the need for tools in their toolbox, but would repealing that section not remove some tools, causing you issues?

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Sharon Dowey

So, you are fine with that.

My final question is for all three witnesses. Can you estimate the scale of any costs for your organisations arising from the bill, and are they adequately represented in the financial memorandum?

I ask Dr Forbes to respond first, as she said that the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service had not been consulted in advance of the preparation of the financial memorandum.

Criminal Justice Committee Draft

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Sharon Dowey

I also want to ask for an update on the work that is being done on forensic services and the potential future impact on revenue and capital budget requirements. Your submission says:

“Forensic Services are being delivered at a cost of £47.4 million in the current 2025-26 financial year. This represents 3.2% of overall policing budget and ... we don’t expect this percentage to significantly change in the year ahead.”

We have a big drug problem and there has been an increase in drug driving. In the submission, you mention that public confidence is declining. There seems to be a correlation between that and the fact that there are far fewer road traffic officers. The increase in drug driving might be a result of not having enough toxicology checks. There has also been an increase in accidents. Are you confident that the budget increase that Police Scotland has requested will allow more road traffic officers to go out? Do you have enough money for forensic services?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Sharon Dowey

I agree with the comments that many other committee members have made, but it concerns me that we are talking about an emergency, when an emergency is something that cannot be foreseen. My concern is that this now feels like business as usual because this is the third emergency release of prisoners. Mr MacGregor said that we know that we have an ageing prison population; Wendy Sinclair-Gieben highlighted that in a report a few years ago and asked what we were doing about that ageing population to take pressure off the Prison Service. I do not see that we have taken much action on that.

Again, the people who are in prison are there for a reason—they might have caused mayhem in their communities. I realise that we must protect prison officers, but we are going to move this cohort of people from prison back into communities where they will cause mayhem for police officers who are already struggling to deal with the amount of cases that they have. They just feel that no action is being taken on this.

I do not think that this is an emergency situation. It feels more like business as usual, and I would like to see more on diversion from prosecution. I just feel that we will be back here again.

Criminal Justice Committee

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Sharon Dowey

You said that there was a big cohort of people in Ireland in the middle of the curve who had no choice. If we get the services right, do you think that a lot of people will leave the sex trade?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Sharon Dowey

Professor Phoenix, do you have anything to add?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Sharon Dowey

Dr Sandy, would you like to respond?