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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 April 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Carol Mochan

Good morning. I have three questions about the safe staffing legislation, which has already been passed. First, will it be implemented in the first half of next year?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Programme for Government 2023-24

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Carol Mochan

It is very helpful to know that you are still committed to that. We want to make sure that the link between safe staffing and safe patient outcomes is taken forward. That is great. Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Carol Mochan

My questions are on the theme of public messaging. Sometimes it is suggested that we need to manage people’s expectations of the NHS, but I worry about doing that. Based on the evidence that we have heard today and some of the discussions that we have had, I wonder whether Government needs to be more honest with the population about where we are with the NHS. Do you think that that message is out there in the public? In my experience, most people are only trying to access services in the same way as they have for many years.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Carol Mochan

Yes—I particularly want to put the question to him. We put a lot of pressure on people about alternative pathways. I believe in them, but people have accessed services in the same way for a long time. Sometimes we put too much pressure on people—particularly those in the deep-end practice areas that you mentioned—to access things in a different way, but we do not help them to navigate that well. I would welcome your comments on that, Dr Loughrey.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Carol Mochan

I am interested in knowing about how we support the public with messaging about the situation in NHS Scotland. We discussed public messaging with the previous witnesses. What is the Government’s plan for the winter and the longer term? What will be the message about access to the NHS in Scotland?

I have a particular interest in alternative pathways, which I am very fond of. They are a good thing, but it is unrealistic to expect people who have done things in a certain way for a long time, particularly when they are under pressure because of their own or a family member’s health, to understand those pathways. What plans do you have in place?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Carol Mochan

You might, in the previous evidence, have heard one of the medics say that, last year, one enormous pressure related to Strep cases. He felt that the system was not easily able to quickly change its messaging for parents. Have you learned lessons from what happened last year so that things might be better if we have a similar situation in the future?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Winter Planning 2023-24

Meeting date: 5 September 2023

Carol Mochan

Thank you.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

NHS Scotland (Performance and Recovery)

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Carol Mochan

Very quickly, following on from Gillian Mackay’s questions, would you comment on the safe staffing legislation, the commitment to have that in place by April 2024 and how you think that that is going?

For my particular question, I highlight key points made by board chief executives about staffing. Jeff Ace from NHS Dumfries and Galloway said:

“technically, I cannot afford one in 10 of my workforce, but I clearly need all those people and more to meet the service demands that we are facing.”—[Official Report, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, 2 May 2023; c 13.]

Ralph Roberts from NHS Borders said:

“There is no doubt that what I hear most from staff is their frustration about not being able to do the job that they came to do”.—[Official Report, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, 21 March 2023; c 25.]

Claire Burden from NHS Ayrshire and Arran said:

“There is a lot of anxiety: anxiety and stress are key drivers of staff absences, because the current climate is tough.”—[Official Report, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, 21 March 2023; c 24.]

Is it fair to say that the previous cabinet secretary did not get it right in terms of staffing—staff terms and conditions, recruitment and their place in the workplace? Do you have a plan to take that forward and do you think that you can turn around that staff recruitment and retention issue?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

NHS Scotland (Performance and Recovery)

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Carol Mochan

Thank you for that. The point—

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

NHS Scotland (Performance and Recovery)

Meeting date: 27 June 2023

Carol Mochan

Good morning.

My question relates to all those points. The following quote from Claire Burden, who is from my area, is important. She said that she

“inherited a deficit of £26 million”

when she entered her post, and that

“Going into 2023-24, our underlying position is deteriorating”—[Official Report, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, 21 March 2023; c 13.]

I wonder whether the cabinet secretary feels that decisions, or lack of decisions, by his predecessor are causing on-going problems for the boards. Can you demonstrate to us how you might treat some of the decisions that need to be made with some urgency? The feeling from the boards was that, although the situation was acknowledged, there was no urgency around decision making that might help in the long term.