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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 December 2024
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Good morning, minister. Thank you for joining us. I do not want to reheat old coal for the sake of it, but I want to go back to the issue of the additional consequentials being factored in. You said:

“These amounts are broadly in line with our internal planning assumption and is factored into spending plans.”

Could you provide the committee with the breakdown of that internal planning and, specifically, where you had factored into those spending plans either the reversal of cuts that you had planned or any additional expenditure that would flow from the consequentials?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

We discussed that figure earlier. Would you be able to give the committee a breakdown as to how you have arrived at that £300 million number, relatively—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

On a technical point, the guide says that the savings in the health and social care portfolio have been retained and are not included as funding reductions in the ABR. What is the reason for retaining those potential savings?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

That is true, but this is to give the committee some comfort that you are not simply winging it. You were quite specific in your submission, which says that the figure was

“in line with our internal planning assumption and is factored into spending plans.”

Had that money not come forward, would you not have been facing quite a significant increase in the problem that you identified through the ABR?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Could there be a structural shortfall this year?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Police officers.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Can you benchmark in relation to that and look forward to future years?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

But in October, you were saying that it was around £900 million to £1 billion, and now it is £1.433 billion, which is £400 million more, but in effect, you are saying that there is no—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

For the record, it is therefore accurate to say that you cannot really reconcile that statement with the ABR that was laid before the Parliament on 3 October. The two are inconsistent, are they not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Well, in the sense that you were saying that the figure was “in line with” the

“internal planning assumption and ... factored into the spending plans,”

but it is, materially, £400 million more than you were expecting.