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Completely certain.

Did she discuss ferries?

That would be Derek Mackay.

I am looking at exhibit 1 in the Auditor General’s report. In September 2015:

“CMAL advises Transport Scotland of the significant risks of awarding the contract to FMEL, and states its preference is to start the procurement process again”.

In October:

“Transport Scotland advises CMAL that Scottish ministers are aware of the risks and are content for CMAL to award the contract to FMEL”.

It is quite clear that either CMAL’s wishes were ignored or they were overruled.

I want to come back in later, but I have one final question for now.

You mentioned the investment decision committee. Did it consider the ferries in 2015? If not, who did?

I have a final question for Mr Brannen. You said that you were aware that we had written out to future potential witnesses but that you had not spoken to Mr Middleton. How were you aware that we had written out if you have not spoken to anybody?

Good morning, Mr Watson. I will dig a little bit deeper into governance assurance and oversight at portfolio and project levels and see whether any tension, overlap or gaps exist.

First, perhaps your colleagues could explain more about the role of the portfolio investment board in authorising projects and whether arrangements differ across portfolio areas. Let us hear about that from the perspective of Mr Morrison in health, for example, or Mr Shackman in transport.

Typically, how long does that process take to complete to your satisfaction?

If you could do better, why are you not?

There is a natural tension between the need to do things properly and the need to get infrastructure projects in place quickly, because they tend to follow demand—take the Sheriffhall roundabout, for example. Is there anything in the process that could be done to ensure that you keep all the checks and balances in place but accelerate projects where there is a need to get them done with some urgency?