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Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
I was going to turn to that because it strikes me that, alongside all the technical issues here, there has been a political dynamic to rush this at various points for different reasons. You said in your submission:
“There was clearly a great pressure on the timing of the announcement that it was going to FMEL and there was a high probability the pressure was also on CMAL to rush the invitation to tender.”
Has there been a political driving force throughout this as well, do you think?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
Mr McColl, you mentioned in your opening statement that some of your former colleagues could not attend because they are subject to gagging orders. I am not sure that we need to go into their names, but can you say to what kinds of roles those gagging orders applied? Were you involved in a gagging order at any stage and have you been released from one?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
Okay, just on that point, you said that the meeting was on 31 May 2017. In November 2017, the First Minister came to the yard to launch MV Glen Sannox. That launch was as fake as the painted-on windows, was it not?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
Whose idea was it for the First Minister to come along and have a great razzmatazz photo call around that?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
Just to be certain, you say that you proposed a solution that could potentially have saved the taxpayer about £50 million?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
The First Minister said to the Parliament that if a Government gagging order applied to any of those individuals it would be lifted so that they could fully participate in an inquiry. Is it your understanding that those gagging orders are Government-imposed gagging orders?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
I will go back over several of the issues that have been raised this morning. You said that you were encouraged to engage in the purchase of the yard. Were you encouraged to bid for the two vessels?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
My last question is whether you think that CMAL has something over on the Government?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
Would you say that the Government’s intervention has undermined jobs on the yard?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 16 June 2022
Craig Hoy
Like Mr Beattie, I am concerned about the public purse and, post-nationalisation, things have become significantly worse. Was there an alternative route to getting the ships built?
