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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Craig Hoy

I am going to use very much layman’s terms, and I am sure that procurators fiscal will be aghast at this. Is there any sense that procurators fiscal are going soft on less serious crimes, and those are simply not going to court? Is there a bit of jiggery-pokery and deal making to bring down the numbers in a quicker fashion than might otherwise have been the case before Covid?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Craig Hoy

The report states that the three-year delivery plan is

“critical for ensuring work continues to modernise the criminal justice system, and that it both meets and reflects the needs of people in Scotland, such as women and children”—

which you alluded to earlier—given that the present system appears to impact them disproportionately negatively.

The plan was due to be published in August 2022. Why was it not published then, as you mentioned in your opening remarks? What is the revised timetable for its release and implementation?

Public Audit Committee

“Criminal courts backlog”

Meeting date: 8 June 2023

Craig Hoy

Obviously, if the delivery plan is still a work in progress, it is probably fair to assume that the proposals in it have not yet been fully costed—that process might be on-going. Given that £40 million has been allocated in this financial year to the recovery, renewal and transformation of the criminal justice system, to what extent should we have reservations about whether that money will be allocated or spent in the most effective or appropriate way?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Craig Hoy

The procurement and much of the build has been botched and bungled, and yet in the past two financial years, £135,000 of taxpayers’ money has been spent in the form of bonuses—£87,000 in 2021-22 and £47,000 in 2022-23. Mr Miller, do you have an indication as to what that figure might be for the 2023-24 financial year?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Craig Hoy

But it is perfectly reasonable to accept that performance-related payments could be made in the present financial year.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Craig Hoy

So the First Minister and the Scottish Government are of the expectation that no bonuses will be paid but, unfortunately, they have not looked into the contracts sufficiently to realise that you are obligated to continue making bonus payments now and into the future.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Craig Hoy

Do you feel that you are coming under some political pressure to go and renegotiate those contracts?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Craig Hoy

However, it is safe to say that you cannot prevent payments being made under historical arrangements, so the expectation is that there will be further bonus payments made to senior management at the yard.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Craig Hoy

That is very good to hear, but we must compare and contrast that with the First Minister’s assertion that there would be no further bonus payments made in relation to 801 and 802.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 1 June 2023

Craig Hoy

Good morning, gentlemen. Mr Tydeman, when we visited the yard, you kindly gave us a tour and a briefing. We also got a briefing from some of the trade unionists and some of the front-line staff who have been there for a considerable time. One of the issues that you identified was a potential cash-flow issue as you were bringing in potential new work. You said that you would make a cash call to the Scottish Government. Will you give us an updated snapshot of the yard’s cash-flow position and whether you expect to make any further cash calls to the Scottish Government for the yard rather than the vessels?