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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

So, there is buck passing going on here.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

Ms Jackson, you are a lawyer, so you might have thought about this more.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

In order not to have to cut expenditure elsewhere, if you have set a 9 per cent pay policy over three years and in one area the two-year projection is 7.5 per cent, that leaves you with 1.5 per cent. Does that not mean that you will bust your own pay policy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

That is interesting. It means that the figure of £3,000 per home is suddenly wiped out.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

That is all from me.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

To clarify, as we interrogate the numbers more closely, we can see the vulnerability. It is possible to bring down head count but employ far more senior civil servants and lose a significantly larger number of those who are on lower salaries, which means that the pay bill is still rising. Do you have confidence that the pay bill as well as the head count will fall over time?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

But you could still get around that by cutting other areas.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

You are saying that pay and pensions are going to fall. Total operating costs—

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

I will move to some other areas and points of detail. In relation to the £11.3 million that has been provided for the two-child limit mitigation, am I right to say that that policy will come into effect next year? What is the £11.3 million for?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 11 November 2025

Craig Hoy

I will continue in a similar vein to Mr Mason. When Peter Drummond from the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland was before us, he elaborated on the point that such issues come along every 10 to 15 years, stating that the next ones will be to do with cavity walls, retrofit, structural fire protection to steel buildings and lightweight rainscreen cladding systems, which he said that you cut through with a craft knife.

Ms Johnson, does the industry recognise that we are already aware of potentially two or three further significant remediation projects? Would it not be more honest, therefore, to have this debate in the round and say that it is not only about cladding but about changing the landscape in which we remediate problems that will routinely come along?