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Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
There was the cheat sheet.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
Okay, but you would concede that Alex Salmond encouraged Jim McColl to buy the yard.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
When it all started to go badly wrong at the yard, Mr McColl reached out to you to request a meeting. You met on 31 May. He said that he raised with you a “red flag”. Can you tell the committee what that red flag was? Who else was at that meeting? He said that at least one official was present at it. Who was that official and what was discussed?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
Can I just cut in there? That meeting was a pretty big deal, and there was no official—no civil servant—present. There was a special adviser. How can it be an official meeting if there was no civil servant present?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
Well, he was coming to complain about a major public procurement that was going on—
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
There was another option, which was not to proceed, but—
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
They are not complete yet.
My colleagues will come in shortly, so I have two final questions. You have said repeatedly in TV studios and in Parliament that the buck stops with you. What does that actually mean in your Government? What are the consequences of a quarter of billion pounds being spent on two ferries that are five years late and might launch into obsolescence?
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
Okay. Paragraph 4.22 of the ministerial code says that—
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
Yes.
Public Audit Committee
Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”
Meeting date: 4 November 2022
Craig Hoy
Okay, First Minister. I—
