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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

You say that it is a very clear risk and that the Government should be alert to that risk.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Your report says:

“The SFC and the Scottish Government should also revisit their Protocol for Engagement to strengthen mutual understanding and reinforce adherence to agreed timelines.”

It goes on to say:

“To ensure accountability, the SFC should also continue to highlight non-compliance with deadlines through publicly reporting, creating a reputational incentive for timely co-operation.”

That is the equivalent of a gold star. However, should the SFC have some powers of sanction beyond just a critical report or press release? If that is the gold star, what equivalent to the naughty step should we be looking for?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

The convener alluded to the fact that the report lists countries with national organisations. We have a devolved Government and a devolved Parliament: ergo, we have a Scotland-focused institution. Given that many of the issues that we look at are spending decisions that relate to Westminster, there is a far greater interplay between the two.

I also want to address some of the political concerns that some people have about Scottish exceptionalism. Could there be an alternative model in which the SFC is part of the Office for Budget Responsibility? Would that address the concern about the proximity to the organisation that gives funding to the SFC? Your report identified some questions about the implications of the relationship between the SFC’s independence and its source of funding. Might that be an alternative model that could make the organisation further removed from the Scottish Government and enable it to look at the whole of Scottish public finances in relation to Westminster?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

This has been alluded to, so I will not labour the point, but we have identified that the communications apparatus in the organisation is very good—the people are very effective communicators—but its impact is considerably lower than that of the institution in the Netherlands and that of the OBR. What lessons can we take from that, which the Scottish Fiscal Commission could perhaps look at in order to bolster the impact of a very effective communications operation that just does not seem to be cutting through?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Mr Marks, had you been asked or consulted by the former First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, about whether she should have retained or deleted her WhatsApp messages, what advice would you have given her?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Fine. To switch over to public service reform, you told the Public Audit Committee that £280 million is projected to have been saved in the two financial years up to 31 March. That is £280 million of a £115 billion budget over two years, which amounts to a quarter of a per cent in savings. Is that ambitious enough?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

I have one final question, which is more relevant today than it would otherwise have been. You said to the Public Audit Committee that the difference paid from the block grant in relation to welfare spending, which, if the UK Government goes in a slightly different direction in relation to how people qualify for welfare, will be £1.5 billion or thereabouts, is “material but ... manageable.” Personally, I think that it is material but possibly unmanageable at present. Is there not a significant risk in the Scottish Government’s budget, because of where we are at present and where we might end up if the UK Government cuts back on welfare spending?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Okay. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 March 2025

Craig Hoy

The act that we are looking at dates from 2010, so this is the third extension to it. I accept that we need to do something, as having some process is better than having no process, so can you give us some assurance to convince us that this is not just a holy grail and that we are not going to keep renewing it while seeing no material change?

In 2011, the Christie report said:

“It is estimated that as much as 40 per cent of all spending on public services is accounted for by interventions that could have been avoided by prioritising a preventative approach.”

You are now talking again about the need for a preventative approach when the Christie report, which was commissioned by John Swinney, came to that estimate of 40 per cent back in 2011. Roll forward 14 years, do you have any basis on which to assess what that percentage is now? Have you made any positive impact in relation to that?