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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Good morning, Liz. It is nice to see you.

I have a quick question about the estimates in the financial memorandum. You say that the assumption in the bill is that around 60,000 pupils would receive residential outdoor education, but you also identify a range of between 55,000 and 65,000 pupils, which is a range of about 18 per cent. With regard to the cost estimates in the financial memorandum, there is a 66 per cent spread. You said at the outset that, on the basis of what you have heard in evidence, you think that the top end of that spectrum probably represents the most realistic estimate. Where do you think that that range is likely to be? Are we now talking about a 20 per cent range towards the top end? There is quite a big spread—a 66 per cent spread—when it comes to the potential costs.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

If 4.65 per cent was the lowest increase, what was the highest increase that someone in the organisation would have received?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Was there any shift in pension contributions during that period, or are those set centrally for the organisation?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Okay. I am just interested in whether there has been any behavioural shift in the jurisdictions.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

I have a couple of relatively granular questions about state schools’ use of minibuses. What is your impression of the number of schools in Scotland that own and operate their own minibus fleet? Is not one of the issues the capital pressures that schools are under? With the introduction of ultra-low-emission zones and so on, could we be leaning in on a bus network that will not exist, which could lead to higher costs if third sector providers are brought in?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Is there an assumption that digitisation will drive costs down over time?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

With regard to the success that you have had in relation to compliance and recovery—obviously, the recovery of taxes that were not paid, rather than those that you did not hand back, as it were—is the model that the more effective you are with compliance, the less likely people are to just chance their arm and not pay? Do you expect that position to improve over time?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

Good morning. You said that the administrative cost of tax collection has risen from 0.71 per cent to 0.78 per cent, in anticipation of other taxes coming in that you will administer. Do you expect that figure to fall in future years as you get efficiency and economies of scale in place?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

The table that you present for the year 1, 2 and 3 costs is quite neat, in that the high estimate in year 1 and the high estimate in year 3 are identical. If the operation of the scheme comes in at the high end of the estimates and the uptake is significant over the three years—this is a good risk—is it the case that the high estimate in year 3 would, logically, be higher than the high estimate in year 1?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Craig Hoy

You referred to Wales. In its submission, COSLA says that the equivalent legislation in Wales did not progress due to a lack of funds being available. What is the status of that similar legislation in Wales? Is it likely to come back again? Can any lessons be learned for this bill from the Welsh experience?