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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Mr Marks, had you been asked or consulted by the former First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, about whether she should have retained or deleted her WhatsApp messages, what advice would you have given her?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Fine. To switch over to public service reform, you told the Public Audit Committee that £280 million is projected to have been saved in the two financial years up to 31 March. That is £280 million of a £115 billion budget over two years, which amounts to a quarter of a per cent in savings. Is that ambitious enough?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

I have one final question, which is more relevant today than it would otherwise have been. You said to the Public Audit Committee that the difference paid from the block grant in relation to welfare spending, which, if the UK Government goes in a slightly different direction in relation to how people qualify for welfare, will be £1.5 billion or thereabouts, is “material but ... manageable.” Personally, I think that it is material but possibly unmanageable at present. Is there not a significant risk in the Scottish Government’s budget, because of where we are at present and where we might end up if the UK Government cuts back on welfare spending?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

“OECD Review of the Scottish Fiscal Commission 2025”

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Okay. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

But it is still a drop in the ocean. You also said in the submission that the target is to save £300 million over the next two years.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Good morning, Mr Marks. On the issue of public sector reform, I have a few brief questions about the integrity, propriety, transparency and impartiality of the civil service. In March 2024, the First Minister announced the review of the Scottish Government’s use of mobile messaging and other non-corporate devices. In your experience as the permanent secretary, have you seen anything that has given you cause for concern about the culture and the application of communications, particularly digital communications, and the decision-making process of the Government that has flowed from that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Had Nicola Sturgeon consulted you on whether she should retain or delete her Covid-related WhatsApp messages, what advice would you have given her?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

In relation to impartiality, the ministerial code states:

“Ministers must not use public resources for party-political purposes.”

At any stage in your tenure, did you have concerns that the civil service may have been being brought into the political sphere in such a way?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

I will raise with you a particular example of when, it is probably safe to say, ministers might have been pushing the boundaries. It relates to a tweet from October 2022 that said that Scotland’s economy would “grow faster with independence”. That tweet is still on the Scottish Government’s website. Did you get the impression that there were grey areas and that the civil service was being pulled over the line by ministers?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Craig Hoy

Yes, but that is 0.23 per cent again, so we are still talking about relatively small sums in relation to a very large budget.