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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Appointments)

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Can you think of an example of where you personally drew a minister’s or a Government’s attention to risks in clear and vivid terms? How responsive do they tend to be to that? Generally, they are smart people who are advised by smart people and sometimes they might be prepared to take those risks.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Lastly, you have made a virtue of the fact that Scottish National Party policy is to have a larger public sector than the rest of the UK and for that sector to be paid better than it is in England. Would you be willing to look at that pay differential between Scotland and the rest of the UK and shrink it, rather than shrinking the amount of money that you are spending on public services, which is the logical outcome unless you tackle public sector pay?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

It is now.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

The document also reveals that there is concern among officials about the limitations of the data that has come forward from Government agencies in respect of their cost base. Under the heading “Context and Issues”, the paper says:

“The rationale for the £1 billion is based on the data commissioned from public bodies last summer and then applying a 20% reduction against the corporate function costs. The Minister is aware of the limitations of that data”.

The paper goes on to say that you therefore simply cannot forecast forward from that. Are you aware of the limitations of the data that your Government holds in relation to the expenditure of those agencies?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Is that work completed now? Do you have clarity on that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

The increase could drive economic growth and employment in Scotland, as it has done recently.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Another risk relates to what happens as a result of decisions taken by the UK Government. The MTFS refers to one issue, which is domestic demographics. However, defence spending could ride a coach and horses through the UK budget, which would have a consequence here. Given the global economic and defence security position, you get the impression that defence expenditure is likely to rise rather than fall as a percentage of the UK budget. What risks are there for devolved areas of expenditure if the UK Government has to cut front-line public spending in the rest of the UK?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Good morning. Quite a lot of the ground that I had intended to cover has been covered. However, I have a question for Professor Roy about the form, function and frequency of the various reports that the committee looks into.

We criticised the delay to the medium-term financial strategy. We are now having a spending review which, if it was going to be warts and all and completely open and frank, we probably would not want to have on the eve of a Scottish parliamentary election. From your vantage point, could more be done in the next parliamentary session to streamline the process and declutter the number of reports and strategies, so that we get a much clearer impression of where Scotland’s public finances are?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

You said in the fiscal update that ending fiscal transfers would improve the scrutiny and functioning of the Scottish budget, as they have serious material effects, particularly on the health, education and local government portfolios. From your discussions with the Scottish Government, why do you think that it is so reluctant to make what would seem like a relatively modest and sensible change to the way in which it presents its accounts?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Government and Scottish Fiscal Commission (Publications)

Meeting date: 2 September 2025

Craig Hoy

You have a presumption against it.