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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 3 April 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Lastly, the convener referred to the need to ensure that funding is properly allocated to the portfolio from which it will be spent. You have said that the fact that that does not happen probably affects your forecasting. It definitely impedes our scrutiny function. Why do you think that the Government is still reluctant to go as far as it could in relation to that relatively simple switch in methodology?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Thank you, convener. Good minds think alike. I had eight questions, and you have asked seven of them, which have been comprehensively answered, so this is probably going to be one of my briefest contributions.

I want to go back to the cycle of parliamentary elections and the medium-term financial strategy. Is another risk for Scotland the fact that we seem to have a never-ending cycle of elections? Last year, we had a general election after which the assumptions of the previous Government were, in effect, disregarded and the supposed black hole emerged. We have seen various fiscal events since then.

You say that you want to have greater financial transparency and more stable ground, but to what extent are the parts of the UK that have devolved Administrations further undermined in projecting forwards as a result of that cycle? At the end of the day, particularly in the run-up to general elections, politics is short-termist in nature. Often, the political and economic narratives are absolutely one.

Do we need to be alert to that in Scotland? We had an election last year, we have an election next year and we will have local government elections the year after, and we could have a general election the following year. Does that not make your job, and the job of the Parliament, more difficult in trying to get security and forward-looking provision?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

In your role as a trusted adviser to Governments of all political persuasions, you said last summer that you wanted there to be greater transparency on Scottish Government pay awards. Do you get the impression that that advice has now been heeded?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Okay. The table mentions protective characteristics or something. It just seemed a bit odd that you could identify that five people were appointed but you could not break that down.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

I think that the OBR has about 52 staff. You identified the issue in relation to the way in which the OBR operates in forecasting for the Treasury and undertaking other modelling, and you identified that the situation with the fiscal framework is more complex. Is it just a given that, because we do not have the economy of scale in Scotland, the SFC appears disproportionately large compared with, for example, the OBR?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Yes, I know that there is a memorandum of understanding. Is there any duplication that you could identify on which the MOU could go further or could be looked at again, perhaps to make things better for your workload and that of the OBR?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

Super—thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

I have a follow-up question on diversity and inclusion based on the table that is part of paragraph 85 of the “Annual Report and Accounts for the year ended 31 March 2024”. On those who apply for roles in the organisation, it has numbers for the categories of male, female and those who prefer not to say, but you have not provided information on the numbers who were successful at interview or who agreed to start broken down by gender. The notation says that that is

“suppressed due to the small numbers involved.”

You can say that a total of five people were successful at interview. What is the threshold that prevents you from telling us what the gender make-up is of that number?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

On staffing numbers, if I am reading the figures correctly, you have about 20 staff.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Craig Hoy

I got that impression.

In all Governments, including in the UK, I assume that there is merit in having a look at whether the structures are fit for purpose and as efficient and effective as possible. You came into being formally in 2016, which was a time when, politically, there was a sense of what I would call Scottish exceptionalism—other people might come to a different conclusion on that. Given the interdependence of and interconnectivity between the Scottish and the UK public finances, and given that the bodies that we have in the UK are not asymmetrical—that came up when we were in Belfast recently—is there merit in looking again at whether the structure that we have is the most effective and efficient one? Is there a case, for example, for considering somehow making the SFC part of the OBR, as its Scottish division? Would that not also perhaps have the merit of making you slightly more distant from the Scottish Government, which would address any underlying concerns about your independence from Government?