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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 April 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Are you able to share with the committee exactly where the spawning cod were found? The consultation document says that they were found “in the closed area”. From what you have seen in the study, are you able to give us a specific location?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

You could always follow that up afterwards.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

So, rather than allow—

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Dr Needle, you are nodding.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

I am not sure how everything works, but I will say what I think.

The closure has not been introduced fairly. I would like the Government to go away, rethink it and bring it back, if that is an option. If we need to annul the order for that to happen, on balance I support that.

I am concerned about the evidence base. I am supportive of a precautionary approach, but that needs to be balanced with economic factors and livelihoods. The Government has not got the balance right on that.

During the meeting, I have been looking at the research papers that were cited, and I cannot even see that thing about 5m to 10m above the sea bed; it seems to be based on tidal activity rather than fishing. I just do not feel that, on the whole, the approach is right. I therefore support the motion to annul.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

It was published in February 2019.

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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

On Elaine Whyte’s call for more science, I understand that early results of a study undertaken by the Scottish Oceans Institute and the Clyde Fishermen’s Association show the presence of spawning cod in the closed area during the closure period, which suggests that the closure is in the right place at the right time. Will you share with us where specifically the cod are spawning, according to that research? When will that research be published and put in the public domain so that we can all see it?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

It is on the point that Simon Macdonald raised about cod not spawning in muddy areas. I understand that the evidence on that is not conclusive and that, in Sweden, cod have been found to spawn in a muddy, sheltered body of water that is similar to the Clyde. I am interested to hear from the witnesses whether they feel that more research should be done into that before a decision is made.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

In so far as the reports are just a presentation of the facts, as you said, the CFA supports them and will have no issues with them when they are published.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Mercedes Villalba

I just have a very quick yes or no question for each panellist, starting with Alex Watson Crook. Do you believe that there is evidence to support the banning of creeling and dive fishing along with trawling?