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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Will the member take an intervention?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Mercedes Villalba

I thank all members who have lodged amendments in the group.

I will support amendment 110, in the name of Colin Smyth, and I urge other committee members to do the same, because I think that it would clarify the legislation.

I will not support amendment 131, which is in the name of Liam Kerr, because it would undermine the clarity of the offence.

I also cannot support amendments 58 to 62, which are in the name of Edward Mountain and seek to create an exception for rabbits.

I am concerned that amendment 63 would create a loophole for people who claim that they were not intentionally searching for animals.

Amendments 64 to 68 seek to exclude weasels, stoats, mink, polecats and ferrets from the definition of wild mammals and thus from the scope of the bill. I fear that that would leave those animals without any protection against being chased and killed by dogs.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Mercedes Villalba

I have some reservations regarding amendments 157, 160, 172 and 173, in the name of Jim Fairlie, which require the licensing authority to specify the minimum number of guns required.

Although that may well increase the likelihood of a clean shot of a wild mammal, I am concerned that it could also increase the risk to humans and other animals, and I would not want to set a precedent for legislation to mandate a minimum number of guns in any context.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Mercedes Villalba

I support all of Colin Smyth’s amendments in this group and urge all members to do the same.

Amendments 111, 119 and 127 require a person to demonstrate that a method is appropriate and is the most humane, while amendments 112, 144, 145 and 147 require the activity in the exception not to take place during the breeding season, which I support as a basic animal welfare and conservation measure. I cannot support amendment 35, in the name of Rachael Hamilton, as I feel that it weakens the language in the bill.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Mercedes Villalba

It is important that we are clear that there is a difference between wildlife control and the issue in the bill, which is hunting with dogs. I object to animals being chased and killed by dogs. There are other ways to control animals. I draw the member’s attention to that point and have no further remarks to make about the group of amendments.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Okay. My questions are on climate change. It has been said that climate change is bringing wildlife into closer proximity to human settlements, which increases the likelihood of diseases such as Covid-19 among human populations. I would be interested in hearing whether there is a similar increased risk with diseases that affect animals, such as avian flu.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Mercedes Villalba

My questions are on a new topic.

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Mercedes Villalba

My question around enforcement was also probably covered earlier by Karen Adam.

In certain circumstances, if a group of people are organising an event, they are required to notify the police. At last week’s round-table meeting, we spoke briefly about the possibility of a kind of voluntary notification for people who are concerned about potential vexatious allegations. They could self-report ahead of time, to make the local police aware of their activities, which would facilitate any sort of drop-in. Would the Scottish Government look at facilitating a measure such as that in guidance later on, rather than on the face of the bill? Could you outline any other measures to aid enforcement that you are considering?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Hunting with Dogs (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Thank you for your time today, minister. I have a quick follow-up question on the discussion that you had with Alasdair Allan earlier about the definition of “pack”. I believe that you said that, for the purposes of the bill, more than two dogs would be taken to be a pack. Is the number of dogs the only factor in the definition of a pack, or will activity also be a consideration?

Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee

Avian Flu in Scotland

Meeting date: 30 November 2022

Mercedes Villalba

Why are we seeing such different numbers in different parts of the UK? To what extent is that down to more effective biosecurity measures, the density of the population of birds or—and I do not know whether this applies in this case as it did with Covid—our being behind the curve, which means that it will be coming here, too?