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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

The point about the study that you did leads nicely on to my second question. As a north-east MSP, I am especially interested in rural proofing, and the committee has discussed that issue at length. When Dr Alison Hosie represented the SHRC at a meeting of the committee in October last year, she spoke powerfully about the issue. Your work in the Highlands has identified significant gaps in the realisation of economic, social and cultural rights. Dr Hosie highlighted big issues around access to healthcare, for example. It is clear that a lack of rural proofing by decision makers in Edinburgh is having a hugely detrimental impact on rural communities.

Will you say a bit more about the SHRC’s work in this area and the engagement that you have had with the Scottish Government on the importance of rural proofing?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

It sounds as if it is a huge crisis now and women feel that they are being let down. Monitoring is very important, because you cannot manage what you do not measure, so you are measuring, but how are you making sure that the issue is front and centre as one of the Scottish Government’s top priorities?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

I have a question and a follow-up, convener. The committee will be considering the Scottish budget in February. Do you have any comment to make on the Scottish Government’s approach to human rights budgeting and on the scrutiny of the budget by parliamentary committees?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

The jury is out and it is not happening, but you have hope.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

I will come back quickly on that point before I go on to my third question. On primary healthcare, under the 2018 general practitioner contract, rural areas are massively negatively affected. I raise that issue because of the huge number of practices that are closing, threatening to close or handing back their contracts. Primary healthcare is at the front end of our health and social care system. Do you have any comment on that?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

Professor O’Hagan has indicated to the convener that she would like to come in. One of the issues that has been raised with the committee is legal aid, and we are considering the Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill. That issue is front and centre as well.

Convener, can Professor O’Hagan come in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

Is it too late to do that now? We are late in the process. You met Shona Robison. Will we see a human rights overlay on the budgeting process?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

So, safe homes, decent food and health and social care are still in your top priorities.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

My final question is for Jan Savage. The SHRC’s annual report highlights evidence that, after experiencing violence,

“women’s experiences of accessing support are falling short of the national strategy and undermine Scotland’s compliance with international human rights obligations.”

Will you expand on that observation? How will the SHRC work to ensure that survivors of violence are not being failed by the Scottish Government and the system that is supposed to support them in their time of need?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Human Rights Commission

Meeting date: 14 January 2025

Tess White

I am nodding my head because, for three decades before I became an MSP, my role was to look at spend and whether it was delivering the intended outcomes.

It seems as though we go into this budgeting round with an intersectional disconnect. Again, I will quote Dr Hosie. She said in her evidence session to us that the Scottish Government’s approach to massive in-year spending cuts

“was not a very satisfactory process, and it was not transparent.”—[Official Report, Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, 29 October 2024; c 40.]

Our committee has been looking at a number of issues. We know that a huge percentage of women with learning needs—90 per cent—have been sexually assaulted. We know that inoculation centres are centralised in rural areas, so we are not surprised that our hospitals are facing a huge issue with flu because people cannot get their jabs. We have mentioned the GP contract for maternity services, and Professor O’Hagan mentioned women giving birth by the side of the road. I have two more examples. We are aware that an increasing number of over-50s with hypothermia are presenting themselves in hospitals. Finally, there has not been a single conviction for female genital mutilation.

I appreciate that you are new to the role—thank you for this helpful session today—but what can we, as a committee, and the Scottish Government do more of to ensure that a human rights perspective is applied to, and overlayed on to, the budgeting process, given that that does not happen right now?