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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Is no provision of information required for anyone in the process to ensure that it has happened?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, minister, and thank you for joining us this morning. I have a quick question about the expansion of the provision of legal aid to children who might be subject to MRCs. How do you expect that those who qualify will be informed of the fact that legal aid is provided? Will provision be automatic, or will some kind of application be needed?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

I have a couple of questions about how we use procurement and how procurement activities can be designed for social, environmental and other goods. Julie Welsh’s answers to the opening questions talked about the challenges around net zero targets and the climate change imperative. How are the sustainable procurement duties enabling or supporting the work that you are trying to do? If there are challenges and barriers, what do we need to do to unpick them?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

You are doing that alongside your local government colleagues.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

We have had a conversation about whole-life costing, and there is something about whole-life accounting and the benefits and disbenefits that are associated with that. Is there anything that you want to say on some of the social issues? There is a duty around tackling inequality and gender pay gaps and those kinds of things. Again, is that a data thing? Is it about not necessarily having the information to track that data through supply chains and products?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Can I interrupt you on that point? Would it be inappropriate to have those standards in Scotland alone, because we do not deal only with Scottish produce and Scottish supply chains, so we would need to look further afield and have comparability?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

There was a lot in that answer, and I could pick up on lots of things that you said. However, I have a final question. How can front-line staff influence decisions about goods and products that are part of procurement plans and agreements? Is there an effective mechanism for front-line staff to influence decisions about goods and services? They are the people who make the services work, and they use the goods themselves. Are those decisions usually taken at higher-up levels? Is there a mismatch there? Is there a gap?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Graeme Cook, perhaps I could bring you in on some similar questions. What are the barriers in the current system to achieving outcomes on tackling social and environmental inequalities?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful—thank you.

I have some questions for Peter Hunter that are in a similar space. You mentioned the challenges that you have had in relation to a specific example of migrant workers not being paid the living wage, as the commissioning contract indicates should happen.

Will you say a little about what challenges there are for suppliers and commissioners in using the legislation to secure the social and environmental outcomes? Why are we failing in that? Why do we have an example of migrant workers not being paid appropriately? Can you point to other examples of similar issues?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-Legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 13 March 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. I will leave it there.