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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you all very much. I am aware that we have three different types of commission in front of us this morning, so it has been really interesting to hear about your different perspectives, reporting mechanisms and accountability structures. That is something for us to take on board and to consider as we progress with this work.

Thank you very much for your time and for the evidence that you have given us. I am sure that you will be hearing from us in due course as we progress this work. We will move into private session.

11:17 Meeting continued in private until 11:31.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much, Jan. I thank all the witnesses for their opening statements. We will move to questions now, and I will kick off.

In different ways, you have all said that you support the principles behind, and the desired outcomes of, the proposed disability commissioner and the legislation that we are considering. The consultation shows strong support for a commissioner role. Why do you think that is? We have heard talk of implementation gaps and accountability gaps. What is failing? What is going wrong? Could you tell us what your organisations are seeking to do in the space? I will start with Nick Hobbs.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

I will ask Jan Savage a similar question. Where are the issues with accountability and implementation? Where is the SHRC’s role working in this space?

10:15  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Paul, is there anything that you want to pick up on in that space, before I bring in Evelyn Tweed?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Evelyn, over to you.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

No, go for it.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Does anyone else want to pick up on that point?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Jan. Your point about the work that the Finance and Public Administration Committee is doing is well made. We will look with interest at the additional material that you send it—if you could also share it with us, that would be great.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you. We have not been able to get Marie McNair back online. Are there any final points or comments that you want us to we hear before you leave?

11:15  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, and welcome to the 14th meeting in 2024 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have apologies this morning from our convener, Karen Adam, and from Annie Wells.

Our first agenda item is an evidence-taking session on the Disability Commissioner (Scotland) Bill, and I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I am very pleased to welcome to our meeting Dr Arun Chopra, executive medical director, Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland; Stephanie Griffin, Scotland policy manager, Equality and Human Rights Commission; Nick Hobbs, head of advice and investigations, Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland; and Jan Savage, executive director, Scottish Human Rights Commission. Thank you for your time and attendance.

I invite each of you to provide a brief opening statement before we move to questions. We will start with Dr Chopra.