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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

However, the point is about concerns, for example, that not enough people are aware. I accept that the SCJC is independent and has a statutory set up. However, is its remit clear enough, or broad enough, to ensure that there is that wide engagement with people?

I appreciate what the minister said about the focus and interest, in relation to the pillars of the Aarhus convention, being primarily around access to justice. However, there is also something about awareness and participation. In that respect, is the SCJC constrained by statute, or is the minister of the view that it could do what the ERCS and others say that it should be doing?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

You think that it is possible, even without the repeal of regulation 15 around the joint interest test.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Okay—so there is scope for discussion. I suppose that my point is that you see that there is a problem with the way in which things are set up at the moment, because if there is a broader interest, one individual alone might not be able to take the case forward.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, minister, and thank you for joining us. I have a couple of questions on some of the bigger-picture stuff that you highlighted when you talked about the embedding of equalities and human rights across the Government’s decision-making. Last week and previously, we heard about some of the disconnect between how we understand the national outcomes and their relationships to national performance framework structures and the sustainable development goals. What work is under way to ensure that we connect those different processes, tools and frameworks? Part of that question is: do we have the data?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

I have a final quick question. What is your view on the ask for gender equality to be included in one of the national outcomes in order to bring us in line with the sustainable development goals—in particular, SDG 5—and international best practice?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

I will elaborate a little bit. We are talking about how we ensure equalities understanding across different Government departments, strategies and ways of working. However, certain data sets are not incorporated into the national outcomes, including data relating to issues such as homelessness and fuel poverty, which, when they go wrong, have fundamental human rights implications. Given the absence of data integration, what do you need in order to be able to meet those outcomes?

There is also an issue about the failure to connect the dots and the need for transparency and understanding, so that people are not making a decision relating to one area that they know will have an effect on another area but are not telling anyone about that.

I am trying to understand the minister’s sense of how we are using the data sets that we have, given the structures of the national outcomes, the NPF, SDGs and all of that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to you both. Thank you for joining us this morning; I am sorry that I am not in the room with you. My question follows on from the previous ones. A couple of years ago, the Scottish Government committed to a very clear approach that linked policy development more effectively with budget decisions and vice versa, and to longer-term financial planning. We know that the most effective place to ensure that the views of those with lived experience are considered is in portfolio, while the policies are being developed, rather than after the fact.

Alison Hosie, I will come to you first. Do you get a sense that there has been that recognition and that policy development and budget decisions are better linked? That was one of EHRBAG’s recommendations. There have been challenges, which you have outlined. Will you say a little bit more about whether you think that the Scottish Government is making progress on those commitments?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Alison Hosie, do you want to come back in on that quickly?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

That very much chimes with evidence that we heard last year in our budget work around policy coherence, and with what we heard from the earlier panel this morning. Do you think there is an understanding of the importance of that coherence work across the piece? You talked about shorter and longer-term impacts and unforeseen consequences. Do you think there is that understanding of how things work together? Do the national outcomes perhaps provide a framework whereby we can start looking at whole-picture things rather than the silos and compartmentalised decision making that we have seen?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 29 October 2024

Maggie Chapman

Sara Cowan, I will come to you with a similar question. Where is progress on the specific recommendations around impact assessments and awareness-raising of those issues?