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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 April 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Parliament Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good afternoon, witnesses. Thank you for being with us and for your comments so far. I want to unpick a little bit of what you said and help us get a clearer picture.

You have all, in different ways, mentioned things such as codes of conduct, policies against bullying and harassment and complaints processes that different parties have. This is perhaps a cheeky question but, from your perspectives and given what you know and have heard at the meeting, do those processes work to protect and support women who are elected, are considering standing as candidates or just want non-elected positions of leadership in the party? When I say “non-elected”, I mean not elected to local government or Parliament—there will be internal elections as well.

However, do those mechanisms work? Are we able to use them to support and protect women from the everyday misogyny, microaggressions and sexism that were clearly highlighted to us by the previous panel?

Cailyn, I will start with you and work my way along the panel.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Parliament Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Convener, for full disclosure, so that colleagues know, I put it on the record that Ann McGuinness is a member of my parliamentary staff team.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Parliament Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks. I will leave it there, convener.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Parliament Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

I want to pick up on a couple of things. Talat Yaqoob said that there can be a risk to political parties in being transparent about their data or their processes for achieving or moving towards equal or inclusive representation. Given some of those challenges, what should political parties be doing? For the Holyrood elections in 2026 and the local government elections in 2027, what do you want political parties to focus specifically on?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Parliament Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Cat Murphy, what should political parties focus on between now and 2027?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Parliament Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

I appreciate that there is a challenge, because political parties function in a wider society that is still patriarchal, sexist and misogynistic. There is a real difficulty in that, even if parties have the best processes and systems in the world, if the culture is wrong and if the context of that culture is still unequal, they are pushing everything up a hill—probably backwards—and it does not feel very progressive.

You mentioned some of the formal rules relating to the gender-balancing mechanisms for candidates. Some of you have already talked about how you promote gender equality in your parties, but could you say a bit more about that? We focus on candidates and elected representatives, because that is what the world sees, but so much of that comes from the structures and the support in our parties. Could you say a bit more about how you ensure that you get women, including disabled women and women from minority ethnic backgrounds, into positions of leadership in your parties? We should not consider only those for whom the public can vote.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Scottish Parliament Gender-sensitive Audit

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks, Cailyn. Did you want to come in, Sarah?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, panel. Thank you very much for joining us.

I want to carry on the line of questioning about the impact on NGOs and individuals who might be seeking redress and access to justice. Ben Christman gave the example of the John Muir Trust, which faced a bill of more than £120,000 after having lost a case. Do people find barriers other than costs to accessing justice, and are they different for NGOs, community groups and individuals? Can you give us a flavour of the types of barriers that different types of people who might be seeking litigation face?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

You said that not everybody is eligible to access legal aid, so that could be a barrier. I will leave it there for now, but I might come back in later.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Aarhus Convention

Meeting date: 12 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

That point about looking holistically and aiming for cohesion is really useful, because it is easy to get fixated on one little issue in one place and not think about the bigger picture.