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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 April 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, witnesses. Thank you for being with us.

I have a couple of questions. Nick Shields was just talking about innovation and the need to change our technologies, and you have all touched on resilience issues around diversification and adaptation, such as being adaptable and flexible, as well as skills. Will you say a bit more about the level of innovation activities across your areas, particularly on developing processes and technologies that will help us to address supply chain issues? What is there at the moment? What do you think that we need? How do we incentivise innovations? I am particularly interested in innovations that lead directly to supply chain resilience and supporting industries that we can sustain through volatile circumstances and times. That question goes first to Nick Shields, then to Keith Ridgway then Iain Bomphray.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

I want to pick up a couple of points that have been made about the coercion and control that some lone mums will experience. Pam Gosal, who sends her apologies today, was interested in exploring some of the high levels of domestic abuse and violence that we know have occurred during the pandemic, not only in black, Asian and minority ethnic communities and ethnic minority groups but more generally. What are the witnesses’ thoughts on current service provisions and whether our policies are adequate? Do we have the right support mechanisms in place to support people who are in abusive and violent situations, and what can we do better? I appreciate that, particularly for carers in paid and unpaid work, there will be additional vulnerabilities around domestic abuse and domestic violence, so I am keen to hear different people’s views on that. Those questions are for Satwat Rehman first and then for anybody else who wants to pick those up. I am sure that Margaret Lance will want to.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Patrycja—that is a clear outline of some of the barriers and issues around digital replacements for face-to-face meeting spaces. We need to think a bit more creatively and imaginatively about that.

I turn to Margaret Lance. I am aware that ethnic minority women face additional exclusions around not only digital poverty but safe spaces to meet, and there may be cultural issues that we need to understand a bit more clearly. What would you like to say in response?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

You have clearly outlined the gross failure of society to understand different family models, which we need to think about more widely, and not just in this committee. We also need to think about how to deal with issues of isolation and the on-going mental health impacts on individuals and society, which will affect us for a significant time to come, because I am not sure that we have systems in place to do that. I will leave it there just now, convener, and will come in again later if that is okay.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

That was very helpful. Thank you, Margaret.

Does Satwat Rehman want to come in to say a little bit about the women, lone carers and lone families whom she supports, and how they have dealt with some of the intersections—the cross-cutting inequalities—that they face?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful—thank you, Satwat. Patrycja Kupiec wants to come in next.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, Margaret—that is really helpful. It is useful that you mentioned the police. We have talked about social services and other support services, but it is important that you brought the police into the discussion. We perhaps need to think about conversations that we can have with the police around cultural understanding and sensitivities, so that their role does not come down to blind enforcement of a policy and there is a sensitive understanding of different situations.

I will leave it there for now.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Women’s Unfair Responsibility for Unpaid Care and Domestic Work

Meeting date: 14 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

Thank you for being with us this morning and for your opening statements. You all referred in some way to a point that we have heard before, which is that the pandemic has exacerbated existing inequalities, whether in gender—because of the patriarchal society—race, age, or ability. I want to unpick the intersections, particularly in relation to carers who are women of colour, ethnic minorities, the issue that Margaret Lance raised around having no recourse to public funds, and how support has been, if not absent, very difficult to access. Will you say a little bit more about the women, carers and others with whom you have direct experience?

I put that to Margaret Lance first. I will then ask Satwat Rehman to come in.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

I come to Gordon Banks on the connection between resilience and innovation.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 8 December 2021

Maggie Chapman

What other things should we focus on?